Talk:Types Riot/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Tkbrett (talk · contribs) 16:31, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello again. I thought I'd have a crack at this one. Just a heads up that, as this is my first GA Review, I plan on following the recommendation and sending my review along to one of the good article mentors before I finish it. Tkbrett (✉) 16:31, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Lead

• "The Types Riot was the..." -> "The Types Riot refers to the..."

 Done

• I think the Family Compact are important enough to be mentioned in the opening sentence, probably as "... printing press and movable type by members of the Family Compact on June 8, 1826..."

 Done

• link Editorial

 Done

• "... assumed the event was sanctioned by the Upper Canadian government" can be made active as "assumed the Upper Canadian government sanctioned the event."

 Done

• link Colonel

 Done

• pipe York Militia

 Done

• "Historians identified..." -> "Historians identify"

 Done

Background

• link Upper Canada

 Done

Planning

• This section is too short to justify its own heading (MOS:OVERSECTION: "Very short sections and subsections clutter an article with headings and inhibit the flow of the prose. Short paragraphs and single sentences generally do not warrant their own subheading.") Consider joining it in the next section.

 Done merged "Planning" and "Riots"

• pipe Lieutenant Governor of Upper Canada

 Done

• "was approached by members of the Family Compact" -> "members of the Family Compact approached"

 Done

• pipe Attorney General of Ontario

 Done

Riots

• capitalize Indigenous people (per the Government of Canada's style guide. See the second note on the Canadian Indian residential school system page.)

Buidhe commented on this below that it should stay lowercase, so I won't change it right now (although I would support changing MOS for capitalisation)

I've gone ahead and struck this critique. See below. Tkbrett (✉) 18:36, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

• pipe Movable type

 Done

• "two powerful administrators": seems a bit wishy washy to me. Is it possible to be more specific than "powerful"?

I changed to "high-ranking"

Good. Tkbrett (✉) 18:36, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

• "spectators were gathered" -> "spectators gathered"

 Done

• "the passion of the rioters was displayed without restraint" -> "the rioters displayed their passion without restraint"

 Done

Immediate aftermath

• "thrown Mackenzie into the bay": you refer to it as Toronto Harbour earlier, so your readers won't know that it is also called Toronto Bay

I know that the bay is called "Toronto Bay" today, but I cannot verify what the name of the bay was at that time, nor what William Jarvis called it. Sources keep referring to it as "the bay".

Yes, in retrospect I think it makes sense in context. Tkbrett (✉) 18:36, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

• Lieutenant-Governor is capitalized here, whereas it wasn't in the Planning section

 Done

Civil trial

• MOS:OVERSECTION again here for the subsections that are only a paragraph long (Pre-trial, Defendant's case, Jury deliberations)

 Done I created a "Trial details" and "Arguments and jury deliberations" sections

• link civil suit

 Done

• pipe Settlement (litigation)

 Done

• link trial

 Done

• link Defendant

 Done

• "Mackenzie was represented by Marshall Spring Bidwell" -> "Marshall Spring Bidwell represented Mackenzie"

 Done

• "Christopher Alexander Hagerman represented the defendants"

 Done

• link Special jury

 Done

• "Only eleven of the summoned men came to serve on the jury." This sentence confused me. Does it mean that sixteen men were summoned and only eleven showed up, or does it mean that of the sixteen summoned five were later eliminated, leaving eleven.

Of the sixteen men that were summoned, only eleven showed up. I tried to rephrase to make this clearer. Z1720 (talk) 16:05, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Good. Tkbrett (✉) 18:36, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

• "Hagerman's address to the jury was printed in the Upper Canada Herald and totalled 4400 words" -> "The Upper Canada Heraldprinted Hagerman's address to the jury, totalling 4400 words

 Done with slight rephrase

• "William Lyon Mackenzie's conduct" -> "Mackenzie's conduct"

 Done

Civil trial aftermath

• "Jarvis's wife Mary was surprised with the low amount that was awarded to Mackenzie." -> "The low amount awarded to Mackenzie surprised Jarvis's wife, Mary."

 Done

• "lieutenant governor" -> however you want to standardize it

 Done

Criminal trial

• pipe Shilling (British coin)

 Done

• pipe the "Tory" in "Tory-aligned historians" to either Upper Canada Tories or Conservatism in Canada

 Done

References

• Copyvio score is a good 11.5%
• Checking print sources available on Google Books as well as JSTOR journal articles indicates the info is properly sourced.

Images

• The Mackenzie portrait needs a US PD tag. If it was published the PD-old-auto 1996 tag will probably work. If it was never published, then PD-US-unpublished
• The map needs a PD Canada tag.
• B/c the Samuel Jarvis image is an anonymous photograph we can use the PD-Canada-anon tag instead. It also needs a US tag; the Template:PD-old-assumed one should work.

Templates have been added to all three images, per suggestions above and by Buidhe below. Z1720 (talk) 16:22, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Good. Tkbrett (✉) 18:36, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Final comments and verdict

 On hold until the above points are addressed. I've reached out to a GA mentor to look over my shoulder. Tkbrett (✉) 20:36, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

• This GA review looks very thorough to me. The only issue I see is that you are asking for the article to follow the Canadian government style instead of MOS. Unless the Canadian government style guide is adopted by consensus, then MOS:CAPS would apply. Judging from NGRAMS there is co consistent capitalization of the word "indigenous", so it should stay in lowercase. (t · c) buidhe 13:13, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
• Also, PD-old-assumed is NOT a US PD tag and states explicitly, "You must also include a United States public domain tag to indicate why this work is in the public domain in the United States." So this image will need a different US PD tag; PD-1996 should work. (t · c) buidhe 14:52, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
  • @Tkbrett: @Buidhe: I commented on the points above. Most were fixed, but some might require a double-check (like the images). Thanks for your comments and review. Z1720 (talk) 16:24, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
    • @Buidhe:: The article does use the Use Canadian English template, but I take your point that it's not part of the MOS. A GA review is hardly the place to debate this, so I've gone ahead and struck that point. Thanks re:PD tags. Thanks so much for your help, I really appreciate it! Big fan of your work. Tkbrett (✉) 18:36, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
    • @Z1720:: pass: everything looks good so I've changed the status to pass. Very nice work! Happy to see these important Canadian history pages are being fleshed out. Tkbrett (✉) 18:36, 13 May 2021 (UTC)