Talk:Tyler Austin
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[edit]Please tell me User:SunCrow, why "An encyclopedia article on a baseball player who has played 59 major league games does not need to be 12 paragraphs long." Where is that written? Why are you deleting that he was a South Atlantic League All-Star Game, details on his performance with Charleston before being promoted to Tampa, being selected to play in the All-Star Futures Game, his final 2012 stats, among other things? – Muboshgu (talk) 16:41, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Excessively detailed article
[edit]This article is a perfect example of one that includes "an excessive amount of intricate detail that may only interest a specific audience" (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Overly_detailed). This article includes intricate details about Austin's minor league promotions, demotions, and injuries. These details are not encyclopedic. By way of comparison, please see the Wikipedia pages of other young players in the Yankees system such as Clint Frazier (eight paragraphs), Jonathan Holder (five paragraphs), and Luis Cessa (three paragraphs), which are less detailed and more appropriate in length.
I made a series of 11 edits that brought this article down from 12 paragraphs to nine (which I still believe is far too lengthy and detailed for this subject), and all 11 have been reverted. They should be reinstated. I am tagging the article as excessively detailed. SunCrow (talk) 17:10, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- @SunCrow: How is this excessive? How is it too much detail? Nothing about the info is "indiscriminate", it's all about his career. I provided a few examples of things you deleted above that are highly pertinent to his playing career. Austin's career has had more ups and downs than those other players, and without looking at their articles specifically, they may be too short. That's an WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument, anyway. The article length here (without your cuts) is just under 7,000 characters of prose. Per WP:ARTICLESIZE, there's nothing remotely wrong with that. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:14, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- It looks excessive at first glance but when i read the sections i cant find very much that i'd actually remove... there are mentions of Chris Carter and Garrett Cooper in the majors section that i personally would take out as they arent necessary and maybe its not really that notable that he was once the 77th best prospect but these are minor things. Spanneraol (talk) 18:27, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- I think that stuff is relevant. Being a top 100 prospect is of note, as it shows how a player is regarded in that stage of his career. Carter and Cooper are part of the equation of his 2017 season, based on playing time. I'm open to trimming if there's anything excessive, but I don't think anything here is. Injuries, promotions, demotions, 40-man roster addition, the DFA... all that is important. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:57, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- Relevant to whom? In what universe is minutiae about a minor-league baseball career encyclopedic? If we leave that stuff in, we may as well add Tyler Austin's favorite color and the name of his childhood pet, too. SunCrow (talk) 00:32, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
- Relvant to him, and his career. How are his stats, injuries, prospect status, etc. "minutiae"? Don't bother with strawmen about favorite colors and pets. All of this detail you're talking about is about his career. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:02, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
- I did delete a sentence that was excessive. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:04, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
- Relevant to whom? In what universe is minutiae about a minor-league baseball career encyclopedic? If we leave that stuff in, we may as well add Tyler Austin's favorite color and the name of his childhood pet, too. SunCrow (talk) 00:32, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
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