Talk:Two-state solution (Iraqi–Kurdish negotiations)

This article was nominated for deletion on 8 July 2021. The result of the discussion was merge.

This article was nominated for merging with Iraqi–Kurdish conflict on 1 August 2021. The result of the discussion (permanent link) was merge.

Merger proposal

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There was no opposition to the move. Since nearly all the users on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Two-state solution (Iraqi–Kurdish negotiations) and another user here are in favour of merger with Iraqi–Kurdish conflict, I'll merge this article with it. Saynotodrugs12 (talk) 07:41, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Started this to give extra time for anyone who wants to leave his opinion on the merger with Iraqi-Kurdish conflict. A consensus was reached on the deletion nomination Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Two-state solution (Iraqi–Kurdish negotiations). While I agree with the merger proposal, just four people approving it might not seem good. So I've started this discussion. If there's no significant opposition to the merger in a week, I'll merge it.

The term "Two-state solution" is barely used by reliable sources from what I can find and not popular at all. And it's just an alternative term for [Iraqi] Kurdish indpendence. Given that it's not much popular and the article barely contains any text besides two paras that can be easily covered in other articles, especially the Iraqi-Kurdish conflict which already covers the issue of independence of Iraqi Kurdistan.

In addition there are no ongoing negotiations involving independence, despite this article framing it as part of them, as far as I see. It rejected such negotiations long ago. While it is certain that the Iraqi Kurdistan government wants independence, Iraq isn't nor it seems ever will negotiate.

Secondly, not just this article uses scant sources, but the term "80% solution" is also never mentioned in any of the source. While a book by Peter W. Gilbraith used as source here does mention Iraq without Kurdistan will have 80% area, there's no such actual name like "80% solution" used. Since the article is presenting these terms as formal and actual names, sources shouldn't be cited to claim that two-state solution is also called 80% solution, when they do not say so.

And anyway while there's nothing wrong in having a separate article for Iraqi Kurdish independence, it shouldn't be done under a term which is barely used. Especially when there is barely any information on this article and it can easily be merged with another article.

I'm also calling on those involved in the deletion discussion earlier if they have any additonal opinions to give. @Greyshark09, Vladimir.copic, Paragon Deku, and Rubbish computer: Saynotodrugs12 (talk) 14:04, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support the article is not too big to be on its own ArabMan719 (talk) 22:00, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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