Talk:Turgot map of Paris

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The description of the map's projection vs the conventions of the time

I find the following paragraph to be confusing:

In the eighteenth century, the trend was to abandon portraits of cities (inherited from the Renaissance) for a geometric plan, more technical and mathematical. But the plan de Turgot goes against this trend, by choosing the system of perspective cavaliere: two buildings of the same size are represented by two drawings of the same size, whether the buildings are close or distant.[3]

It is confusing because this method of projection is every bit as "technical and mathematical" as a plan view.

The final part of the paragraph simply means there is no perspective in the drawing, and this is precisely what one requires from an accurate map -- exactly the same as an overhead plan. A map drawn with perspective would appear to be far more of a "portrait" than one without (and would be less useful as a map, even if accurate). Based on the rest of the text, this was a highly-technical and precisely-measured map of Paris.

Clearly this was an atypical map, but my impression is that the explanation of why should not suggest that the 3D projection of this map was in any way less-technical or less-accurate than the more-common overhead plan views.

Instead, I would suggest "a geometric plan, more technical and mathematical" be changed to "an overhead plan view", and that "by choosing the system of perspective cavaliere" be changed to "by choosing a three-dimensional projection of the city, using the system of perspective cavaliere", linking "three-dimensional projection" to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_projection

150.107.172.32 (talk) 22:46, 2 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a source that seems to me to be consistent with the current text. Your suggestion sounds like WP:OR to me. --Robert.Allen (talk) 09:48, 3 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The Turgot map of Paris is a highly accurate and detailed map of the city of Paris, France, as it existed in the 1730s. It was published in 1739 as an atlas of twenty non-overlapping sectional bird's-eye-view maps, each approximately 50 cm × 80 cm (20 in × 31 in), in isometric perspective toward the southeast, as well as one simplified overview map with a four-by-five grid showing the layout of the twenty sectional maps. It has been described as "the first all-comprising graphical inventory of the capital, down to the last orchard and tree, detailing every house and naming even the most modest cul-de-sac". The complete map is shown here in its assembled form.

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Map credit: Louis Bretez and Claude Lucas

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The Turgot map of Paris is a highly accurate and detailed map of the city of Paris, France, as it existed in the 1730s. It was published in 1739 as an atlas of twenty non-overlapping sectional bird's-eye-view maps, each approximately 50 cm × 80 cm (20 in × 31 in), in isometric perspective toward the southeast, as well as one simplified overview map – shown here – with a four-by-five grid indicating the general layout of the twenty sectional maps. It has been described as "the first all-comprising graphical inventory of the capital, down to the last orchard and tree, detailing every house and naming even the most modest cul-de-sac".

Map credit: Louis Bretez and Claude Lucas

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