Talk:Tupinambis

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"Tegu" Redirect

It would appear that "Tegu" is very broadly encompassing colloquial term. It does not apply only to Tupinambis. Lizards in the genera Salvator, Dicrodon, Crocodilurus, Dracaena and Callopistes are also referred to as "Tegus". Perhaps "Tegu" should redirect to Teiidae, or be made into a disambiguation page listing all the aforementioned genera?

Really? I've only ever heard it used for Tupinambis (as well was what is newly called Salvator). IME, the others are either referred to most commonly by a totally different common name (IME Dracena = "Caiman lizard") or by modifications of "Tegu" (e.g. "Crocodile tegu", "Dwarf tegu", etc.). Maybe a thingy at the top of the page saying "For other lizards such as dwarf tegus, see Teiidae."? HCA (talk) 19:56, 20 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Tupinambis and Salvator Tegus are referred to with descriptive monikers as well: "Gold Tegu", "Black and White Tegu", "Red Tegu", etc. I've also seen "Caiman Tegu" used for Dracaena, though it's not as common as "Caiman Lizard". Having "Tegu" redirect to Tupinambis is like having "Cobra" redirect to Naja - it's a colloquialism that isn't necessarily restricted to members of a single genus.

Salvator

It would appear that some of the foreign-language versions of Wikipedia, such as the Spanish, French, and Vietnamese versions, have already split up Tupinambis and Salvator. The Reptile database also uses Salvator. What level of support is necessary for the English Wikipedia to recognize taxonomic changes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.242.100.15 (talk) 18:36, 22 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Currently, the Reptiles & Amphibians Wikiproject uses the ITIS database, which doesn't show the Salvator split and seems to be fairly conservative. I think the idea is that we can't go moving pages every time there's a revision, especially if subsequent revisions undo it or alter it, so it's best to let the dust settle before doing anything major. HCA (talk) 19:04, 22 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

ITIS lists the Gold Tegu as Tupinambis nigropunctatus, but Wikipedia has it listed as Tupinambis teguixin. ITIS also has the Crested Gecko listed as Rhacodactylus ciliatus, but Wikipedia's moved it to Correlophus ciliatus. Wikipedia has moved the Corn Snake and its relatives to Pantherophis, but ITIS still has them listed under Elaphe. Are these pages violating the Reptiles and Amphibian Wikiproject policy or is the ITIS outdated? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.242.100.15 (talk) 19:19, 22 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

They're officially violating the rules of the project, but I've previously attempted to fix one of those (Rhacodactylus) only to have overzealous fans of the newer name thwart me, at which point I figured it wasn't worth the trouble. HCA (talk) 22:05, 22 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]