Talk:Tunceli Province
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Section on name changes
[edit]The section on name changes is currently a mess, with the list of villages possibly containing original research. "Gomanweb" is a personal webpage and is absolutely unreliable. It does probably contain valuable information nonetheless, so I am moving the list here for any user interested in sourcing it. --GGT (talk) 14:17, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
Another note, Nişanyan's Index Anatolicus might be a useful tool for substantiating the list below for any interesting users. I unfortunately do not have the time to go through every single village right now, but the sourced re-addition of such a list to the mainspace will surely be useful. --GGT (talk) 16:21, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
Xozat (Now called Navend)
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Peyîg (Now called Çağlarca)
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Çarsenceq (Now called Akpazar)
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Moxindî (Now called Darikent)
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Qisle (navend)
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Xakis (Now called Büyükyurt)
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Yeresk (Now called Dallıbahçe)
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Pêrtag (Navend) |
Paxşang (Now called Pınarlar)
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Hirmêkêx (Now called Dere)
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Avşker (Now called Akdemir) |
"Dersim Alevi Kurd"
[edit]I thought Alevis were Armenian, Zaza and Kurdish in Tunceli? So why it's called "POV" Beshogur (talk) 09:48, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
- Both Armenians and Kurds can be Alevi in Dersim, which includes those Kurds who speak the Zazaki or Kurmanji dialect of Kurdish. That is why the subheading was "Kurds" (to include those Kurdish people of both dialects) and then you have another subheading addressing Armenians. However, you seem to be going around Wikipedia and erasing evidence of Kurdish identity in a WP:TENDITIOUS way against WP:POV, which I would encourage you to stop doing as it will continue to be reverted. Redthoreau -- (talk) 19:33, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
Alevi Kurds =/= Zazas
[edit]Zazas are a distinct iranian group, different from Kurmanji Kurds. Zazaki(language of zazas) is not related to kurmanji in any way other than both stemming from iranian language family. It is extremely wrong to call zazas as "alevi zazaki speaking kurds" and it must be fixed
These people are making biased changes. In the section on Turks and Zaza, the sources are more than the section on Armenians. They are fraudulently enough to even remove the Yellow Saltuk Mausoleum that is visible.Despite being Armenian, Sevan Nişanyan says that Zazas and Turks are more. The name of this place is Semsuripedi, because he wipes it according to his head.Racists who made changes in Semsuri and other sides should be prevented because they are not neutral.You should block these people.They's act is called Cunning and Fraud.I personally am Tuncelian. The changes made by these racists have nothing to do with the facts.He is completely propaganda. Real historians and people who are after knowledge had noticed their lies beforehand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ulasgoc (talk • contribs) 13:23, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Why should information on the past significant presence of Armenians before the genocide be removed? --Semsurî (talk) 13:49, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
== Genocide
Name changes
[edit]There are ten citations to the second sentence under the subtitle "Name changes". Isn't a few citations enough? It's an overkill and looks messy. 92.44.208.98 (talk) 12:22, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
Dersim is not part of Kurdistan
[edit]Dersim is part of Kırmanciye. Kırmanciye is land of Alevi-Zaza. 217.131.231.180 (talk) 22:01, 18 April 2023 (UTC)