Talk:Tummo/Archive 1

Archive 1

Warning

A few years ago, a young Frenchwoman froze to death attempting this practice, though I can't find the details at present. Perhaps some sort of warning is appropriate in this article. Shantavira 14:20, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

• Perhaps you should find the details.

Reply: Warning

Yes, I agree with that observation. Tumo might be said to belong to a cluster of meditation-related phenomena that might lead to serious physiological and psychological problems if the practice of meditation is unsupervised, over-done, or situated outside of a proper socio-cultural context. Many of these problems have been adressed in academical articles. A warning is indeed appropriate (For more on this see article on meditation - Adverse effects). --Hawol 15:22, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

• And monkeys "might" fly out of my butt. So this supposed heat-generating yoga can cause someone to freeze to death, according to conditions that sound like the rules of Fizzbin?

If someone decided to try it out for the first time out on a glacier and couldn't generate the heat, then yes, they would freeze to death..? Leushenko (talk) 02:13, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Ripley's Believe It Or Not

Allthough the inclusion of observations from the Tv-show Ripley's Believe It Or Not contains relevant information on the subject of tumo, such Tv-documentaries are highly problematic from a source-critical point of view, and their content can not be considered to be credible background information for an encyclopedic entry. I have therefore removed this contribution. I am however willing to re-include the information if it can be supported by a published study, until then I am afraid we must leave it out. I hope this makes sense.--Hawol 15:47, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

Removing yoga template

I did originally remove the yoga template becuase of the terms strong relation to hinduism. Tumo is first, and foremost, a tibetan concept, etymologically situated within tibetan buddhism. To complicate matters, Benson and colleagues (1982) do indeed use the term Tum-mo yoga, so an inclusion of the template might after all be highly relevant. I have therefore put the template back into the article. I'm sorry about this confusion on my part. --Hawol 10:10, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Hopefully, this template will help folks notice that not all forms of yoga are exclusive to Hinduism. ;-) — RDF ^talk 21:46, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

• Wrong. It came to Tibet from India and exists in both Hindu and Buddhist yoga. Know your role, Jabroni.

Content focus needs to be re-written

The content about Tummo/Tumo has more focus on the fact that heat is released from the body. The real purpose of Tummo/Tumo as mentioned in the artile is finally covered briefly in the third paragraph as Yogic Enlightenment! I propose that purpose be mentioned before the sensational aspects of Tummo (Heat in the body) as it makes Tumo seem like the goal is to generate heat (which it is not according to the article).

New references - Effendi (2004)

New insights on the topic of tumo are welcome. The Effendi (2004) title is however not mentioned in the article text, and might therefore not be considered a reference. I would therefore encourage the contributor of the reference to elaborate upon the theories of this author, and it's relevance to the topic of tumo. --Hawol 17:02, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

move to tummo

A Google search suggests 'tummo' is a far more common spelling.

tummo kundalini -wikipedia (12,700 hits)

tumo kundalini -wikipedia (718 hits)

Also 'tummo' is more consistent with the Wylie transliteration. Thus, I am moving the article to Tummo.

--Dforest 00:58, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

First sentence

The first sentence of this article is very difficult to read (in particular the grammatical parsing is quite ambiguous). Can someone please rewrite it, perhaps as two sentences instead of one? Here is the sentence for reference: "Tummo is a Tibetan term for a suite of advanced sadhana, contemplative practice, spiritual energetic work or meditation of the Himalayan traditions of Vajrayana and Bön." Kaldari (talk) 01:11, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Wim Hof: moving to the Wim Hof article

Hello all,

Is anybody still working on moving the Wim Hof material over to the article about Wim Hof where it belongs?

If not and if nobody objects, I will do my best to incorporate the non-redundant material from this article into Wim Hof. I will then remove the section from Tummo, perhaps adding a brief reference or "see also" link (as Wim Hof, while a lovely person and all, isn't particularly relevant to an article about Tummo and is adding to the problem of excess focus on body heat). Abidagus (talk) 07:11, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. Unless he's a Tibetan monk or trained in tummo by a Tibetan master, it does no good to conflate the two subjects. Kortoso (talk) 22:08, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Edit by Goconfidently33

Shortening an article by 3.7k, deleting lots of references and calling it a minor change isn't how Wiki works so I'm undoing this (good faith) edit. It's better to split the changes into lots of individual explained edits that the editing community can swallow more easily! K2709 (talk) 12:43, 8 October 2013 (UTC)