Talk:Tsanars

Tsanars were Georgians

@WikiEditor1234567123 It's widely recognized by international scholars that Tsanars were Georgians, specifically unification of Mokheves, Khevsurs and Mtiuletians. What i wrote was all sourced material, therefore it's wrong to delete it. Don't change it back, unless you provide real sources. Lemabeta (talk) 10:50, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please follow WP:BRD and don't return your edits if they're reverted. I've added the material in the section "Ethnicity and localization"; presenting point of view held by (bias) Georgian historians as the universally held point of view in the lead is a violation of WP:NPOV as there exist different point of views including a Vainakh version. WikiEditor^123… 10:59, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@WikiEditor1234567123 Sanaria out of which comes Tsanar was a name of all Kakheti given by Arabs. Those are independent sources, even tho one or two orientalists or whoever thought them to be Vainakhs, that doesn't change the fact that Tsanars spoke wrote Georgian and practiced Georgian Orthodoxy. Many theories have a chance of existance but its accepted that Tsanars were Georgians. I will now find ancient Georgian sources about Tsanars and add the information about it. Don't revert it as i have provided many sources Lemabeta (talk) 11:07, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@WikiEditor1234567123 just because they are Georgians historians that doesn't make them unrealiable sources. They are a well educated professors and historians, their words have a value unlike Vainakh fairy tale writer "historians". Lemabeta (talk) 11:10, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nice of you to insult Ingush and Chechen historians, they're fairy tale writers and Georgian historians' are more right. It's not widely accepted again, you just spammed Georgian sources, I could also spam Ingush or Chechen sources, does this mean that it's widely recognized that Tsanars were Vainakh? Of course not. Because of WP:NPOV, we have to show theories neutrally. I did that by writing that they were a Caucasian people. Add in future your sources regarding Georgian background in section "Ethnicity and localization". Best regards, WikiEditor^123… 11:16, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@WikiEditor1234567123 it's not a news to a scholarly society that Russian historians which includes also Ingush and Chechen historians that they are fairy tale writers. It's not an insult. Lemabeta (talk) 11:20, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]