Talk:Trump Tower/Archive 1

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The article was a stub and I expanded it. I kept as much of what was there before, with exceptions. It is in progress and I will add the sources and possibly make a structural diagram. I will also format the bar on the right to one of the Wiki standards, probably form the Citigroup building.

Also: Although Trump Tower is actually 58 stories tall, most reference sources list the building as having 68 stories. The elevator even has a button for the 68th floor, and it will actually take you to a real floor where the apartment numbers start with 68. Building management had the top floors designated 66-68 on the elevator. Many Manhattan buildings are taller than Trump Tower, an example being the General Motors building. It is 705 feet high (compared to Trump Tower at 664 feet high). Yet the General Motors building only has 50 stories. Prices of condos rise in proportion to height, and Donald Trump may have been well aware of that.

This is important to note, since from what I have been able to find, Trump was the first person to do this in New York (and this has become the stahdard know). But the GM Building comparison is bad because it is an office building and of steel construction. This means that it has a higher average floor high, for structure and ductwork. I will add comparable buildings and find a citing where Trump decided to add the extra floors ( I think Art of the Deal has a qoute).

Any help would be appreciated.

I think you are somewhat confused. But so am I. The construction of a building has nothing whatever to do with Trump's marketing ploy of referring to his buildings as having more floors than they actually do. If I recall correctly, while the markeing of Trump Tower was going on, Trump explained that his claim of 68 stories (when there are only 58 or so) was based on his further claim that each floor on Trump Tower was "taller than the average floor in a skyscraper in New York." I am not sure what this means, because there are many apartment towers in the city whose ceiling heights are certainly taller than those in Trump Tower. They do not make a fictitious claim of having more floors than they actually do. I am unaware that the floors in Trump Tower have unusual ceiling heights to begin with. SO---does anyone know what the apartment ceiling heights are in TT? Second--does anyone have any further explanation of Trump's claim that the bui;lding has more floors than it in fact has? This entire issue is so ridiculous, as is much of Trump's overblown rhetotic and salesmanship; it is mitigated, in part, for me, by my admiration for TT's architectural style (the exterior, that is; the less said about the interior, the better). 66.108.4.183 04:46, 25 August 2006 (UTC) Allen Roth

I am not confused. The city and any official notations of the building has it listed as having 58 stories. A "story" is a legal definition, and TT only has 58 of those. The owner does not decide how many it actually has, the building code does.

In Art of the Deal, Trump claims the extra 10 stories because the atrium, which is 5 stories high and each story double the height of the upper stories, counts as ten (instead of five). It is pure marketing ( and you can find the cited article on the web and read it). Anyone can say whatever they want about the actual number of floors a building has. If you cannot stand on it, it does not exist. As long as we stick to official sources, definitions, there will be no confusion.

By the way, since TT is a mixed use building with elevators for each use, it is hard to actually see the spot where the floors "overlap". Further, a typical residential floor in TT has a lower ceiling height ( don't know about floor-ro-floor height) than other "lexury" buildings on Manhattan. I also like the design of TT too, even if it is much maligned.Gary Joseph 11:09, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Getting directions

The lead says "corner of 56h". Is that E or W 56h? Which is to say, next to or across from Bonwit Teller? (Was the Corning building torn down to build it?) TREKphiler ^{hit me ♠} 21:21, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Scratch that, XT link says BT was demolished, which puts TT on E 56h by my Manhattan map. TREKphiler ^{hit me ♠} 21:26, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Trump Tower which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 22:15, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

• The move discussion is now at Talk:Trump Tower (disambiguation). Fuortu (talk) 23:01, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 January 2017

Owned by the President of the United States of America. Linuxfan1 (talk) 17:09, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 17:15, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Trump Tower NYC is 666 feet high

There are several websites that list Trump Tower NYC as "666 feet high". This article says "664 feet". Do we know which is actually correct? 73.46.49.164 (talk) 13:03, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Can you list some of those websites? --Joshualouie711^talk 13:26, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Google it. http://www.thehypertexts.com/Donald%20Trump%20666%20Mark%20of%20the%20Beast.htm . This site misses that Donald Trump = 666 when using the Evil=48 Code of A=49, B50... D52+O63+N62+A49+L60+D52 + T68+R66+U69+M61+P64 = 666. 73.46.49.164 (talk) 16:39, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

That is not a reliable source. On the other hand, BI, Britannica, and the Chicago Tribune are reliable, and they all say 664 feet. --Joshualouie711^talk 17:24, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Wrong citation

"By contrast, a review in 2016 stated that it was New York City's "most pleasant interior public space" to be built in recent history." This is wrong. The review is not from 2016, but the article just quotes an 1983 comment before(!) the opening that the atrium not is, but only "may well be" the most etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.130.221.220 (talk) 08:35, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

This has been changed. Thanks for the heads-up. epicgenius (talk) 13:00, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 August 2020

Please change "After climbing for two hours and 45 minutes, the NYPD Emergency Service Units (ESU) apprehended him at the 21st floor of the tower" to either "After climbing for two hours and 45 minutes, he was apprehended by the NYPD Emergency Service Units (ESU) at the 21st floor of the tower" or "After he had climbed for two hours and 45 minutes, the NYPD Emergency Service Units (ESU) apprehended him at the 21st floor of the tower." The current sentence is grammatically incorrect. 2001:BB6:4713:4858:5DEB:5937:1202:663B (talk) 13:53, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

 Done. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 14:33, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Trump-Clinton picture

This picture of Trump and Clinton at Trump Tower is of much higher quality than the one currently in the article, just a suggestion: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Donald_Trump_and_Bill_Clinton.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.250.173.11 (talk) 14:33, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

 Done Thanks, I've switched them. |→ Spaully ^~talk~  12:13, 25 January 2021 (UTC)