Talk:Trini

This article was nominated for deletion on 29 February 2016. The result of the discussion was redirect to Trinidadians.

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Merge

I suggest we blank this page to a redirect to Trinidad and Tobago. "Trini" is just a shortened form of Trinidadian (which is a redirect page to Trinidad and Tobago). The opening statement in the Trinidad and Tobago article mentions the shortened form "Trini", this article does not have much to expand on and doesn't deserve a devoted page. Precedent is set for other countries, see Canadian, Mexican, Australian.

Note I'm suggesting redirection to Trinidad and Tobago not Trinidad, as generally the term is not island specific. Rasadam (talk) 05:40, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tobagonians would beg to differ. They usually prefer to refer to theemselves as Tobagonian, not trini. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.59.73.45 (talk) 00:51, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Trinidad instead. --mav (talk) 01:04, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If this is merged again, it should be merged into Trinidadians. – Wbm1058 (talk) 14:44, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion of page move etc

It has been suggested that the dab page ought to be moved from Trini (disambiguation) to Trini as there is no primary topic.

OK, let's look at the history and the options.

A page "Trini" was taken to AfD in Feb 2016 and the outcome was "Redirect to Trinidadians", and that target page is now a redirect to Trinidadians and Tobagonians. In the last few minutes that page has been given the hatnote it needs, referring to the dab page.

There is a dab page at Trini (disambiguation), which is not correctly formatted as a "dab page where there exists a primary topic", but includes Trini (toponym) listed under "People". That dab page looks as if it has always been of that format, and didn;t include a link to the term for Trinidadians until the most recent edits. Ouch.

(Update: I've modified that dab page so it now reflects the fact that there is the currently a primary topic PamD 09:28, 10 March 2019 (UTC))[reply]

There is an article Trini (toponym). Wrong title, and may or may not be an exact re-creation of the previous article which was redirected in the AfD. It isn't more than a dictionary definition, and if it exists ought to be at Trini (demonym), which is currrently a redirect to Trinidadians and Tobagonians.

So there seem to be various options:

1: The primary topic of "Trini" is the demonym (ie the term for Trinidadians and Tobagonians).

1(a): This needs a separate article - so Trini (toponym) should be renamed [[Trini] and the dab page reformatted accordingly as having a primary top

1(b): It doesn't need a separate article, leave Trini as a redirect, and amend the dab page to show the primary topic in top place. Change Trini (toponym) into a redirect.

2: There is no primary topic.

2(a): There still needs to be an article on the demonym. Move dab page to Trini. Rename Trini (toponym) as Trini (demonym) and update the dab page - it shouldn't be buried in list of name-holders, but needs a more prominent place

2(b): There is no need for an article on the demonym. Move dab page to Trini, and make the demonym more conspicuous in the dab page.

3: Possibly some other complications ....

It's certainly not an uncontroversial move, given the history. PamD 08:58, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

OK, no response from anyone here, so see now Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trini (toponym) - an attempt to clarify whether or not the community thinks there should be an article on the demonym "Trini". After that we can discuss the second question, which is whether that demonym, as article or redirect, should be the primary topic of the word "Trini". Two separate issues, I think. PamD 09:35, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]