Talk:Trillion

French interlanguage link

I think this page should be linked with French: fr:Billion (nombre), which is about the same number. Right now, it links to French: fr:Trillion, which is about a different number with a similar-sounding name. Vectornaut (talk) 22:01, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This article covers the concept of a trillion, which is associated with two numbers. Both of these numbers are covered by this article. The French article also covers both the long and short-scale trillion, so given the common etymology I think the two articles are appropriately paired. Betty Logan (talk) 01:32, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

examples

should we add examples of numbers 10^12 to (10^15)-1 5.170.119.16 (talk) 18:44, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

SI prefix

Shouldn't this article also include tera which is the SI prefix for 10¹². The same goes for every other 10 to the power. Avi8tor (talk) 10:56, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tera or "T" denotes an order of magnitude i.e. it's not a number. The tera order of magnitude is actually used here to define 1 billion on the short scale (i.e 10¹²), and the exa order of magnitude is used to define 1 billion on the long scale (i.e 10¹⁸).If you think the article should use SI notation, then the appropriate notation should be added to the short and log scale definitions respectively where the orders of magnitude are given. Betty Logan (talk) 17:32, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently per the article, now that the UK has adopted the short scale it's only non English countries that may use the short scale, seeing as this is the English language Wikipedia and everyone now uses 10¹² I think it should be in there, if you want to add the prefix for the long scale (in that section) that probably would work as well. But I think it may confuse some readers. Avi8tor (talk) 18:19, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It might be an order of magnitude but it's still a number 10¹². Primarily why we have SI prefixes, the number with the prefix is more human friendly, you don't have to count the digits. Avi8tor (talk) 18:22, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1T (10¹²) is used in the definition of the short-scale trillion and 1E (10¹⁸) is used to define a trillion on the long-scale. I don't have any objection to the use of SI units in the respective definitions, but treating tera and "trillion" as etymologically tautological is inappropriate when the article covers a number with two global definitions. Wikipedia may be written in English but it is a global encyclopedia, and we don't favour the English perspective over say, the French perspective per WP:SYSTEMICBIAS. Betty Logan (talk) 21:03, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]