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The average height of the town's male population

I've noticed that someone has added in the article that the regions of Herzegovina, Dalmatia, and Montenegro are the places with the tallest people on average. Also, it has been added that the town of Trebinje has the tallest male population on average 6 ft 5 in (1.96 cm).

Can anyone provide a source to support this?

PS. It seems exaggerated to say that the average height is 6 ft 5 in (1.96 cm) but if this is the case it shouldn't be difficult to provide at least one source to support this. - Zec 15:34, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

The part where the average height of Trebinje's male population was has been deleted 13:13, 29 December 2005 by User:Batsos. Maybe due to the fact that nobody has provided a source to support the claim. Anyways, I consider the discussion or the lack of a discussion to be over concerning the average height of the town's male population. - Zec 19:29, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

This Batsos was being a clown, he says he is from Bijelo Polje, that's my town, and he said you are tall if you are 180. He or she is just a comedian. Bolcanic march 11 2006

I've been to Trebinje and know people from there. I was writing in accordance with what they told me. Finding sources is always difficult... when I find it one day, I will rewrite the thing. Personally, I know the average is not under 190 even if 196 is a little far fetched! The Celt 3 February 2006

And Celtmist may vouch that I was born in Trebinje (despite living there only to the age of 3) and I stand at 2,08 Ragusan 09.02.06

Ericam2008 (talk) 22:50, 5 June 2008 (UTC) If you want a supporting source, just put a webcam in the middle of town. Having been to Trebinje, I would say 6' 5" is not an exaggeration for average male height. And the average for women is probably almost 6'. We were sitting in an outdoor cafe in the center of town one summer evening last year, watching probably the entire town walk by over a couple-hour period. Yes Croats, Serbs & Montenegrins are generally very tall, but this was incredible. We are of average height anywhere else in the world, and almost embarassed to get up out of our seats! Jun 6 2008

Average male height in Trebinje, in one High School, was recorded as 193.7 cm or something over 6' 4" (year 2005 - 2009). People there are just tall.

Climate

The climate data for this article is completely unsourced and should be removed for a couple of reasons.

First of all, the claimed source (as seen in previous version), [worldweather.wmo.int/en/city.html?cityId=16 World Meteorological Organization] points to climate data for Banja Luka, not Trebinje at all. When checking to see other cities, the World Meteorological Organization only has climate data for these cities only: Banja Luka, Mostar, Sarajevo, and Tuzla. I do not see Trebinje at all so the climate data is unsourced and made up.
Second, the second url is not from World Meteorological Organization and is not a really good source at all since it is unofficial data.
Thirdly, data coming from World Meteorological Organization (worldweather.wmo.int) only has data for average high, average low, precipitation/rainfall, and days with precipitation/rainfall. There are no data sunshine, record highs, record lows, or humidity so all of the data being placed in that climate table is again unsourced and made up. Ssbbplayer (talk) 18:04, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

How to read primary sources

@Mikola22:@Sadko: So, today I was at a uni library and I was checking out theses/dissertations and publications of the university publishing house. One of those books was a very strong study about how to read De Administrando Imperio properly and how to use its content in a historically-informed context. Then, I remembered this dispute in wikipedia and was reminded of WP:PRIMARY in the way primary archival records are approached in some discussions in wikipedia. The lesson is: don't use primary sources yourself. Most have been translated and interpreted by people whose job is to do so because they have studied for years and years the one particular period in which the work was written.--Maleschreiber (talk) 19:15, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

@Maleschreiber: (don't use primary sources yourself..etc) exactly. First, for this claim or information "as a land of the Serbs" we need RS who says that, this present source does not say that and for now it is OR. Second, De Administrando Imperio is primary source and we cant put information in the article from primary source. We need a historian who use this source and concludes that De Administrando Imperio by Constantine VII mentioned Travunija (Τερβουνια), as a "land of the Serbs". And then this is RS. Mikola22 (talk) 20:51, 31 July 2020 (UTC)