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[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 05:05, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
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... that Chloe Bailey dances next to a cheetah in the music video for her song "Treat Me"?Source: YR Media
Created by VersaceSpace (talk). Self-nominated at 17:03, 5 August 2022 (UTC).
- @VersaceSpace: New enough and long enough. QPQ present. No copyvio. But I've got an issue—I watched the video to confirm, and that's definitely a leopard. (I spent years watching Big Cat Diary and used to have a cheetah fursona... I know my spots.) That's the sort of thing that makes me question the already flimsy-looking YR Media cite source. Can you please find one that can get its big cats straight? Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 17:42, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: Is this Sound Digest source better? —VersaceSpace 🌃 17:53, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- That doesn't seem to me like an RS. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:30, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: Is this Sound Digest source better? —VersaceSpace 🌃 17:53, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- Agree with Sammi Brie - the hook is clearly untrue. That isn't a cheetah, which suggests that the cited source is not reliable. Not appropriate to put clearly untrue hooks into DYK. OwainDavies (about)(talk) edited at 11:48, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- I've struck the original hook owing to factuality concerns. In the meantime here's some alternate hooks:
ALT1 ... that Chloe Bailey wrote her song "Treat Me" while exiting a relationship?ALT2 ... that to promote her song "Treat Me", Chloe Bailey released a teaser video depicting her wearing a bodysuit with crystals?
- Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:35, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Courtesy ping VersaceSpace Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:08, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5, I'm fine with either of these, although I have concerns about them being interesting. It may be ideal to search for a more reliable source that describes the animal present in the music video. —VersaceSpace 🌃 21:41, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
- To be honest, I don't think either of my suggestions are spectacular either, but there's really no other option I can still see in the article. In any case, given the concerns about the cheetah/leopard thing above, it may be a good idea to simply omit that part from the article for now unless a better source can be found. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:24, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5, I'm fine with either of these, although I have concerns about them being interesting. It may be ideal to search for a more reliable source that describes the animal present in the music video. —VersaceSpace 🌃 21:41, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
- Courtesy ping VersaceSpace Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:08, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
- I've struck the original hook owing to factuality concerns. In the meantime here's some alternate hooks:
- We still need a review of the above two hooks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:54, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
- I found this: interview by Hot 97. It says "leopard" both in text, and the video interview's above (leopard discussed at 3:33). Seems reliable? --LordPeterII (talk) 09:58, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
- If that source is used, maybe we can use this hook instead?
- ALT0a ... that Chloe Bailey dances next to a leopard in the music video for her song "Treat Me"?
- Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:12, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5, @LordPeterII: the source and hook both look good to me. Thanks for your help. —VersaceSpace 🌃 03:22, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
- Article now corrected with the proposed source. I'm sure there are better sources, but a primary seems appropriate here. —VersaceSpace 🌃 03:30, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
- I would support ALT0a with the correct cat. I see the Harper's Bazaar source calls it a tiger, so it seems cat confusion is a bit more commonplace than I'd thought. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:11, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: Wait whaat? o.O How on earth can someone mix up a leopard and a tiger?! Cheetah is at least roughly the same size, but a frickin tiger... just wow. We might really need Cat confusion at some point XD --LordPeterII (talk) 08:45, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- I would support ALT0a with the correct cat. I see the Harper's Bazaar source calls it a tiger, so it seems cat confusion is a bit more commonplace than I'd thought. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:11, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- If that source is used, maybe we can use this hook instead?