Talk:Transdev Brisbane Ferries

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Previous use of Metrolink

The QR bus rail service between Helidon (later Brisbane) and Toowoomba in the 80s and 90s was also known as Metrolink. This was extended to other bus services associated with QR.

This should be a part of QR history not Metrolink Queensland. (Gezzza (talk) 02:27, 24 March 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Merge Discussion

CityCat and Cityferry is subs and should be merged here to help improve this article, one good article is better then 3 sub articles. Gezzza (talk) 06:14, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support, CityCat history seems small enough to be incorporated in this article for the merge. Though the advertising about the Wi-Fi service should go (leave a referenced mention about Wi-Fi being offered), Wikipedia ain't a advertising service. Sb617 (Talk) 12:08, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The ferry wharves are not notability and should be merged into this article. d'oh! _talk 11:18, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support - merging will create a stronger article instead of many weak ones. Airplaneman ✈ 01:06, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Question I'm guessing that User:D'oh! means the articles in the category Ferry wharves in Brisbane. What then makes the Brisbane ferry wharves less notable than, say, the Ferry wharves in Sydney or Ferry terminals in the San Francisco Bay Area? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 01:27, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I doubt Ferry wharves in Sydney and Ferry terminals in the San Francisco Bay Area are notable, but that issue is up to the editors working on those articles to either improve or merge them. d'oh! _talk 03:21, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The suggestion flagged to merge this article with TransdevTSL Brisbane Ferries is not suitable. The article Brisbane Ferries has been merged into this document which is now Ferry Transport in Queensland. Only the portion relating to Brisbane ferries is relevant to the TransdevTSL Brisbane Ferries. Even then, the Moreton Bay regional ferries, Stradbroke Ferries and Moreton Island Ferries sections are not relevant. The merger may be more suitable if TransdevTSL article is merged into this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.14.112.246 (talk) 03:21, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reference

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/bigger-cats-could-solve-ferry-crush/2008/01/13/1200159265358.html

An reference from Ferry network in South East Queensland, maybe useful in this article. d'oh! _talk 12:54, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Recreation of individual "CityCat" page

I feel like the CityCat should have it's own page, rather than being a part of a "TransdevTSL Brisbane Ferries" page. It is a significant icon of Brisbane and people will find it easier to locate if it's under it's own page. It doesn't feel necessary to have it on a page like TransDevTSL Brisbane Ferries which is not what people will be seeking to learn about on Wikipedia. Any thoughts on this? EzykronHD (talk) 21:18, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 5 September 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Withdrawn. Will propose merge of Transdev Brisbane Ferries into Transdev Queensland in November after change of contract, then RM Transdev Queensland to Transdev Brisbane. ItsPugle (please ping on reply) 00:46, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Transdev Brisbane Ferries → Transdev Brisbane – Creates consistency across all other Trandev articles (Transdev Auckland, Transdev Melbourne, Transdev WA etc). Transdev Brisbane also doesn't only operate ferries, but also operates a bus network - ferries are only one part of their portfolio. ItsPugle (please ping on reply) 08:08, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose The bus operation is already covered in Transdev Queensland. If the two are to be combined it should be under the Queensland name. However I am not suggesting that especially with the ferry operation ceasing in November. The New South Wales operation is also covered under separate articles Transdev Sydney Ferries and Transdev NSW and working satisfactorily.Fleet Lists (talk) 08:25, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Transdev website uses "Transdev Brisbane" (or "Transdev in Brisbane") wording (see the URL etc), so I don't know where Transdev Queensland has come from. I think the best thing to do would actually be to merge Transdev Queensland into this since it's a seemingly made up name, then rename this article to Transdev Brisbane as per the actual website. And Transdev NSW (transdevnsw.com.au) and Transdev Sydney Ferries (transdevsydneyferries.com.au) are separate entities, as is Transdev Sydney Light Rail (transdevsydney.com.au) (Transdev NSW covers bus services outside of Sydney). ItsPugle (please ping on reply) 03:56, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Still Oppose {{Trandev Queensland]] has existed since 2010 so it is not new. And Transdev NSW covers bus service in Sydney and not outside Sydney. With the Brisbane ferry operation ceasing in November there is no point in merging the two articles.Fleet Lists (talk) 06:27, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose both renaming and merging, two distinctly separate operations. Q551 (talk) 05:39, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Q551: Absolutely they are, but also see the merge discussion below. This would come after the merge. ItsPugle (please ping on reply) 09:02, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - The ferry contract will transfer to SeaLink in November.[1] 203.8.131.32 (talk) 00:31, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Proposed merge of Transdev Queensland into Transdev Brisbane Ferries

Withdrawn. I will propose reverse merge request in November after the change of contract to River City Ferries. ItsPugle (please ping on reply) 00:49, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Transdev Queensland does not exist - the bus operations are just another part of Transdev Brisbane, as per their website. ItsPugle (please ping on reply) 09:00, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose As above - it is a waste of time doing all this as the Transdev Brisbane ferry operation will cease in November. After that takes place we can rename Transdev Queensland to Transdev Brisbane over the disambiguation page including a reference to the past ferry operation article which should then be scaled down with the fleet information etc moved into the article for the new operator.Fleet Lists (talk) 09:22, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So move Transdev Queensland to Transdev Brisbane in November, then merge Transdev Brisbane Ferries into the latter as a section? I'm happy with that, if so. ItsPugle

(please ping on reply) 09:51, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

That is what I would suggest. Fleet Lists (talk) 11:34, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose and do not merge - Transdev Queensland does not exist and the ferry contract will transfer to SeaLink in November.[2] 203.8.131.32 (talk) 00:29, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Deletion

Now that RiverCity Ferries took over the operations and got their own article on wikipedia, should not we delete this one or merge them. Both of these articles have nearly identical content so keeping both of them only duplicate content and confuse users. Terminals that are no longer serviced probably deserve their own article, but other than that article should be deleted.