Talk:Trams in Panama

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A system map of the 1893 Panama City system and of the separate 1913 or 1920 era Panama City system would be helpful. A map of the horse tram in Colón (a.k.a Aspinwall) would also be helpful.

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Although this article is still short, I do not think merging this article into the Panama Canal Railway article would be useful. By way of analogy, I also do not think that merging List of streetcar systems in the United States into the article on the Union Pacific Railroad is a good idea either (the UP Railroad is the last company still operating nowadays that helped build the transcontinental railroad over the United States). To cite another example: I also do not think it would be a good idea to merge the article on the Public Service Railway with the article on the Camden and Amboy Railroad, despite the fact that the former company served transportation needs in several of the same towns as the latter company. A British analogy using "same town service" might include: I do not think it would be a good idea to merge either the broadly scoped List of town tramway systems in the United Kingdom article or the specific Blackpool tramway article into the West Coast Main Line article, despite the fact that the WCML had service to Blackpool as late as 1947, and intercity rail service continues on the now distinct Blackpool to Liverpool Line or the Blackpool Branch Lines (the analog is that this article concerns itself with tramways of Panama, with the two most viable tramway systems being ones that operated in Panama City, a city that happens to also be served by the Panama Canal Railway). The tramways that were built in Panama differed from the Panama Canal Railway in several respects:

	Panama Canal Railway	United Electric Tramways Company	Panama Tramways Company
other names	Panama Canal Railway Company Panama Railway Panama Rail Road		Panama Electric Company
owner or investor	Kansas City Southern		EBASCO
dates of operation	28 January 1855–present	1 October 1893–1900 or 1902	1 August 1913–31 May 1941
still operating?	yes	no	no
gauge	5 feet (wide gauge) 1855–2000 4 ft 8 1⁄2 in (standard gauge) 2000–present	unknown, probably narrow	42 inches (narrow gauge)
route miles	47.6	29–34.7	10.6–11.2
service	inter-city rail	urban tram	urban tram
carried goods or freight?	yes	no	no
service outside Panama City metro area?	yes, to Colón	no	no
motive power	steam then diesel electric	overhead electric	overhead electric

The companies in the two right hand columns are quite distinct from the company in the left column.

In addition, the tramway that is proposed to be built in Panama City, possibly in the 2010s decade, also differs from the Panama Canal Railway in several respects. The proposed tramway will carry passengers exclusively and it will only operate in the Panama City area, as opposed to the cross isthmus freight (goods) and passenger service that the PCR provides. I'd like to elicit comments for a few days. In the absence of any objection I'd like to remove the merge tag. 69.126.127.193 (talk) 23:08, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The merge tag has been removed from this article. 69.126.127.193 (talk) 03:03, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed article move to "Trams in Panama"

The current title of this article is relatively non-standard. The vast majority of articles in Wikipedia on historical (or long-standing) tram systems in countries (or cities) around the world are titled "Trams in [country (or city)]" (e.g. Trams in Spain, Trams in France, Trams in Australia, etc.).

If there are no objections offered here, I intend to move this article to Trams in Panama in the very near future. If you do have an objection or comment, please post them here. --IJBall (talk) 19:06, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Article moved to Trams in Panama. --IJBall (talk) 16:37, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]