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Deletion

I removed:

|successor=[[Toyota Supra]]<br>[[Toyota Celica]]

because neither of these cars are validly successors, in my opinion. Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 21:48, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

"grand tourer"

GT means "gran tourisimo". It may mean "grand tourer" in English, but it was meant to be used as its acronym, no to be translated for every user.68.231.184.217 (talk) 17:08, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

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Bond Vehicle

The text in this reagard from this version (2/Jul/2010) is highly interesting. Pity, it has not been retained. Oalexander (talk) 10:47, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Sailor Moon

I put that Haruka Tenoh on Sailor Moon drives a yellow convertable 2000GT, I know those were never really made, but it's a cartoon, so? --Hailey 15:20, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Edited to add / correct information about the cars used in You Only Live Twice and The ugliest Girl in Town. Inofrmation about the vehicles from You Only Live Twice is correct as per the Classic and Sportscar article on these cars. --baskingshark 00:37, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

This article needs to mention the vehicle's design was a bad copy of Ferrari and Jaguar. Another Japanese company, Nissan admitted it copied Ferrari, BMW (Datsun 510), 1950's English roadsters, etc.. - 19 May 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.238.139.203 (talk) 02:29, 20 May 2009 (UTC) =Citations-- Does anybody working on this article believe in using citations? Wikiuser just made major additions without adding a single one. --THE FOUNDERS INTENT PRAISE GOOD WORKS 00:38, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

2.3 "less powerful" than the 2.0

Stepho-wrs - just a ping to discuss the changes to the drivetrain section. The whole point of my change - which you acknowledge - is that there are multiple types of power output for an engine, and the 2.3 is less powerful than the 2.0 when it comes to BHP, but more powerful with regard to torque. So it's inaccurate to just say "less powerful" - because it isn't. The 2.0 develops 129 lbft at 5,000 rpm, and the 2.3 148 lbft at a much lower 3,800 rpm. Chaheel Riens (talk) 09:25, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Be aware that while there are multiple ways to measure the output of an engine, power is always bhp (or via a simple multiplication kW) and torque is in ft.lb (or via simple multiplication N.m or kg.m). Torque is never a measure of power.
In our case, the 3M engine has more power because its hp peaks higher than the 2M. And the 2M has more torque because its lb.ft figure peaks higher than the 3M. In no way can we say that the 2M has more power.
But because many people make the same mistake in thinking that torque is a measure of power, we need to think of a clear way to say this.  Stepho  talk  23:34, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
Well, I think you're splitting hairs a little, but concede your technical point. I'm using the term "powerful" in a simple greater/lesser distinction - which is as you say many people would understand. However it still remains - and I think you're agreeing with me - that the 2.3 performs better in one aspect than the 2.0, even if not in another. Many people also make the mistake in thinking that horsepower is the be all and end all when it comes to engine performance, and that's also not true. Torque is as important - if not more so - under different circumstances. You know what they say: "Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car, oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, and torque is how far you take the wall after you've hit it." It may just be easier to say both in the caption "more horsepower, but less torque" - or vice versa. Chaheel Riens (talk) 08:55, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
"more horsepower, but less torque" sound good to me.  Stepho  talk  22:31, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
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