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This page needs several corrections. First of all, Capt. John West, Cockacoeske's son, was not fathered by Totopotomoi. A contemporary account gives his father as "an English Colonel" (widely assumed to be Col. John West, paramour of Cockacoeske). So the Y-DNA of anyone claiming male-line descent from Capt. John West would have no bearing on the paternity of Totopotomoi. Also, I looked at the YDNA results on FTDNA that were referenced in this article. Minor correction: John West's lineage is I-S23519, not IS25519. Also, I found no information on the chart about any descendant of Lord De La Warr. So I don't understand what the basis is for the claim that Capt. John West was not a DNA match with Lord De La Warr. Clarification is needed here. Secondly, leadership in the Powhatan followed matrilineal succession, so there is no reason to conclude that Totopotomoi was Nectowance's son. He would have been the son of Nectowance's sister, mother, maternal cousin, or other female-line relative. If he were (as is widely claimed) the child of the daughter of Powhatan's eldest sister by Lord De La Warr, that would be consistent with the rules of succession. IrisColumbine (talk) 00:22, 18 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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If anyone can make heads or tails of this word salad below, feel free to cite and reintegrate anything useful from it! Totoptomoi not being someone called "Toby West" doesn't seem particularly germane to the article. Ahalenia (talk) 05:34, 30 January 2018 (UTC)Ahalenia[reply]

Totopotomoi has been disproven to be Toby West because his son's y dna differs from the De La Warr -( see FTDNA West Family Ydna Project) and because he had a trip to England; owned different land; paid for 10 headrights; and, signed on the right side with the De La Warrs when signing in learned calligraphy as TobyW West, instead of on the left hand side with the Native who marked their X in the Treaty of 1645. There is the line of Succession that promotes the view that Totopotomoy was the son of Nectowance. To those who have said that Totopotomoy may be the son of "Rachel" Powhattan, cousin of Pocahontas, and Thomas West, third Lord de la Warr because of land that Totopotomoi passed to Capt John West, d. 1717 that originated from 500 acres granted to Totopotomoi; that is not a primary source. Besides which, that land came from a grant through Col John West II who was a known partner of Cockacoeske. Toby West can not be Totopotomoi if it is true that Totopotomoi is the most likely father of Cockacoeske's only documented child, that being Capt John West, d. 1717 who received the land of Totopotomoi and left VR for Chowan Co, NC in 1692.