Talk:Tornado outbreak sequence of March 24–28, 2021

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Section sizes

Section size for Tornado outbreak sequence of March 24–28, 2021 (22 sections)
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Meteorological synopsis	28	13,992
March 24	1,108	1,108
March 25–26	9,050	9,050
March 27–28	3,806	3,806
Confirmed tornadoes	129	85,179
March 24 event	2,212	2,212
March 25 event	24,948	24,948
March 26 event	2,180	2,180
March 27 event	19,469	19,469
March 28 event	1,671	1,671
West Blocton–Helena–Eagle Point–Vandiver, Alabama	8,329	8,329
Macon–Ohatchee–Wellington–Piedmont, Alabama	6,503	6,503
Sawyerville–Centreville–Calera–Columbiana, Alabama	9,196	9,196
Franklin–Newnan–Peachtree City, Georgia	10,542	10,542
Preparations and impact	1,978	1,978
Non-tornadic effects	2,431	4,191
Tennessee flooding	1,760	1,760
See also	305	305
Notes	34	34
References	28	28
External links	712	712
Total	113,188	113,188

Mentioned on Portal:Current events

Note for editors: The article was mentioned on the Current Event Portal on March 25, 2021 with 3 different pieces of information. Elijahandskip (talk) 21:09, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Death toll

@HurricaneCovid: Can you please provide a link to an article stating that there were 6 deaths? The front page of TWC still states 5 deaths. Articles I can find stating 6 deaths are about an outbreak from last year. TornadoLGS (talk) 01:39, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@TornadoLGS: There were 5 deaths in Alabama today and 1 in Mississippi yesterday, according to TWC live. 🌀Hurricane Covid🌀 _(contribs) 01:40, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure that was related, since this front was over Texas yesterday. TornadoLGS (talk) 01:44, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Outbreak sequence vs new article?

Just wanted to go over something in case it happens. According to the SPC, there is considerable potential for more strong tornadoes across the same regions (the South) on March 27. If significant tornado activity continues, should we expand this article, or start a new one? If tornadoes continue past that date, this will start to meet the general criteria for a tornado outbreak sequence. Thoughts? TornadoInformation12 (talk) 06:53, 26 March 2021 (UTC)TornadoInformation12[reply]

Either way is fine with me. United States Man (talk) 10:50, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I really don't know. I mean it won't be part of the same storm system, so by that I think a new article. Elijahandskip (talk) 14:13, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'd see what happens today. If there is little or no activity, I'd favor splitting, if the upcoming event is even article-worthy. TornadoLGS (talk) 16:45, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A tornado may have touched down in Vermont today so the possibility is there for this to become an outbreak sequence article, although that would be stretching the rules a little bit.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 21:04, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe. I'd be inclined to follow the example of the 2012 Leap Day tornado outbreak and Tornado outbreak of March 2–3, 2012. There was a merge discussion, but we kept them separate even with a few weak tornadoes on March 1. TornadoLGS (talk) 21:10, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There was a significant tornado in Middlebury, VT today. I’m strongly considering making this an outbreak sequence article, especially if the Vermont tornado ends up EF2+. That would be different than the Leap Day/March 2, 2012 event due to strong tornadoes on each day. TornadoInformation12 (talk) 22:31, 26 March 2021 (UTC)TornadoInformation12[reply]

Let's wait an see where we are tomorrow. If someone jumps on another article, it can just be combined directly into this one. You never know when you're gonna have a bust with just a handful of tornadoes (although that hasn't happened the last couple weeks). United States Man (talk) 22:41, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I made Draft:Tornado outbreak of March 27 2021 in case we have an outbreak start. With a level 3 of 5 watch issued, I feel like there is enough for a draft to be ready. If we don't have an outbreak, then we can just delete the draft and/or merge any information that was there. If we have an outbreak start, we have a place to add the information as it comes in. Courtesy pings: @United States Man:, @TornadoInformation12:, @TornadoLGS:, @MarioProtIV:, @ChessEric:, and @HurricaneCovid:.

So if more strong tornadoes occur today, we’ll definitely start a new article, rather than expand the previous one into an outbreak sequence? I personally like the outbreak sequence idea, but if nobody else wants to do that, I won’t. Thoughts? TornadoInformation12 (talk) 21:45, 27 March 2021 (UTC)TornadoInformation12[reply]

Minimal activity yesterday, not counting the stuff that hit just after midnight, so I'd favor splitting if this is notable. Someone has already Started a draft, though it is premature. TornadoLGS (talk) 22:17, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

TornadoInformation12. I stated earlier why I believe it should be a new article. The tornadoes, even the vermont tornadoes, were all from the same low pressure storm system. Any new ones today are a different storm system. Unless the systems were happening the same time in the country (like one in Arizona and one in Alabama) producing tornadoes at the same time, then it doesn't make since to call two different systems in the same outbreak. That is at least my opinion on it. Also the draft was premature, but as I stated that it can be speedy deleted if there isn't an outbreak. I created it as a place for the information to funnel into if there is an outbreak that starts. Elijahandskip (talk) 22:22, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That’s why I’m suggesting an outbreak SEQUENCE article, not a tornado outbreak. An outbreak sequence is defined as a series of back to back outbreaks spawned by multiple systems. That’s what is happening right now. TornadoInformation12 (talk) 23:44, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Question for @MarioProtIV:. You say it is part of the old system, do you have a source for that? I am skeptical that the system from 2 days ago that was in Alabama moving East is affecting Texas now. The discussion here basically said that we would make a new article for the outbreak, so unless you have a source for that information, I would kindly ask that you revert your page moves. Elijahandskip (talk) 00:58, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion here is still ongoing and there currently does not appear to be a consensus on whether to split or have an outbreak sequence article. TornadoLGS (talk) 00:59, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Either way, a page move that added today's date in had a consensus to not do that. It would be in a different article (outbreak sequence or split article). Elijahandskip (talk) 01:01, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If we do go with an outbreak sequence article, it would be done by from this page, since the topic already exists. TornadoLGS (talk) 01:10, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, I've been out today, but I feel like this was handled well. Glad to see TornadoInformation12's idea for an outbreak sequence article being used and I am behind it completely. United States Man (talk) 04:32, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

South Carolina Tornado

Can someone with more editing skill add this EF0 tornado confirmed in Laurens county, South Carolina?

https://www.facebook.com/ChrisJustusWYFF4ChiefMeteorologist/posts/287107699450054 Mathguy Michael (talk) 23:34, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done Thank you! United States Man (talk) 23:53, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]