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Notability tag?

I'm really at a loss to understand how this article doesn't meet notability guidelines when this was a well-established company issuing a large number of high-profile products by name creators and featuring major licensed properties. Unless the nominator can articulate a reasonable rationale for this tag — as he or she is supposed to — I see no reason not to remove this. --Tenebrae (talk) 20:11, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Topps is a well know company, but Topps Comics must meet notability on its own. I searched there doesn't seem to be any national news coverage of Topps Comics. It may just have to be folded into Topp Company article. Spshu (talk) 20:31, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Following are just some of the many citations I've found in such sources as The New York Times, Billboard, Comic Book Resources and a whole slew of books. Given this coverage, assembled with fairly cursory effort, and the sheer notability of the high-profile creators and many licensed characters (Zorro), TV shows (he X-Files), movie (Jurassic Park) and book(Ray Bradbury) adaptations involved, I think we'd ver very hared-pressed to say Topps Comics is not notable enough to warrant a Wikipedia article.

Bryant, Adam (March 27, 1992). "COMPANY NEWS; Topps to Start Publishing Comic Books". The New York Times. Retrieved November 13, 2012.

"Shelf Talk". Billboard. July 26, 1997. p. 65. {{cite news}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)

Golden, Christopher; Wagner, Hank (2009). Prince of Stories: The Many Worlds of Neil Gaiman. St. Martin's Griffin. p. 393. ISBN 978-0312373726. {{cite book}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help); |first3= missing |last3= (help); Unknown parameter |las3= ignored (help)

Brunsdale, Mitzi M. (2010). Icons of Mystery and Crime Detection 2 Volume Set: From Sleuths to Superheroes. Greenwood. p. 739. ISBN 978-0313345302. {{cite book}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)

Voger, Mark; Miller, Frank; Gibbons, Dave (2006). The Dark Age: Grim, Great & Gimmicky Post-Modern Comics. TwoMorrows. p. 130. ISBN 978-1893905535. {{cite book}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help); Text "last4- Ross" ignored (help); Unknown parameter |first 4= ignored (|first4= suggested) (help)

"Twilight at Topps". The Jack Kirby Colllector. No. 21. TwoMorrows. October 1998. pp. 149–152. Retrieved November 13, 2012.

Englehart, Steve. (2002). "None of Six: Inside the Prisoner". Comic Book Artist Collection, Volume 2. TwoMorrows. p. 202. ISBN 978-1893905139. {{cite book}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)

Eury, Michael; Anderson, Murphy; Kane, Gil (2002). Captain Action: The Original Super-Hero Action Figure. TwoMorrows. p. 86. ISBN 978-1893905177. {{cite book}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)

"Comic Books". Friday the 13th: The Complete Guide. Pedia Press. p. 14. {{cite book}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)

Gabilliet, Jean-Paul; Beaty, Bart; Nguyen, Nick (2009). Of Comics and Men: A Cultural History of American Comic Books. University Press of Mississippi. p. Three mentions throughout. ISBN 978-1604732672. {{cite book}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)

"Checker to Collect Topp's X-Files Comics" (Press release). Checker Book Publishing Group via Comic Book Resources. , March 10, 2005. Retrieved November 13, 2012. {{cite press release}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)
Sunu, Steve (September 28,, 2011). "Jai Nitz Rediscovers Kirby's "Silver Star"". Comic Book Resources. Retrieved November 13, 2012. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

Witschi, Nicolas S., ed. (2011). A Companion to the Literature and Culture of the American West. Wiley, John & Sons, Incorporated. p. unnumbered page. ISBN 9781444396584. {{cite book}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help); |first= has generic name (help)CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)

--Tenebrae (talk) 02:39, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It was tagged by a bot. Bots make mistakes. Just revert it (although loading it up with reliable refs would be even better). CüRlyTüRkey^Talk_Contribs 03:06, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am not a bot, Curly Turkey.

Tenebrae, notability is not not inherited so the "..sheer notability of the high-profile creators and many licensed characters..." is not relavent. The question is notability of Topps Comics.

Moreover, not all coverage in reliable sources constitutes evidence of notability for the purposes of article creation; for example, directories and databases, advertisements, announcements columns, and minor news stories are all examples of coverage that may not actually support notability when examined, despite their existence as reliable sources."

The NY Times article is on the right path. The Billboard article was not about Topps Comics and did not other wise provide significate coverage (only one paragraph mentioned it and was more about the comic book). "Of Comics and Men" does not give enough coverage, Topps is just mentioned in lists of launched then failed comic book publishers. The comic book news source are minor news stories (CBR, TwoMorrows, etc.), while can be used to fill in the article as reliable sources they don't apply for notability. Pedia Press is just a outfit generating WP based books. I think I saw some Notability guideline that 2 major sources (like the NY Times) is enough but I can not find it any more. But give all the other sources that seems reasonable in this case. Spshu (talk) 16:50, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Spshu. I'm assuming there's a typo in the sentence above and that was supposed to be, "But given all the other sources that seems reasonable in this case." So does that mean Topps Comics is notable from your perspective?

Just to clarify, since you underlined and linked one sentence, not of the above examples are directory listings or advertising, and there's only one press release among them. While many of these cites are from books, mentioning Topps within a larger context, the fact is Topps is mentioned where many, many companies are not. As well, some of the TwoMorrows coverage, particularly the Jack Kirby Collector article are full articles about Topps Comics and its characters, and not tangential mentions.

Also, I think we may interpret the "inherit" guideline differently. I can see where if a notable person buys a restaurant, that doesn't make the restaurant notable. But this seems the opposite case: The restaurant (Topps Comics, metaphorically speaking) hired celebrity chefs, a famous DJ, and notable managers and designers. and in turn helped notability on some of its lesser-known talent. So it's rather the opposite of the example given at the guideline. It's certainly as notable as Fiction House, Tower Comics or any other company that's not Marvel, DC, Image or Dark Horse: Part of the notability for any comics company is the talent they use and the characters they publish. --Tenebrae (talk) 20:07, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Penciler John Cleary

"Kirby himself wrote and drew eight pages of the Satan's Six premiere, interlaced with story pages by writer Tony Isabella, penciler John Cleary and inker Armando Gil." The hotlink points to a page about Canadian politician John Cleary. Is this really the same person? WaxTadpole (talk) 15:42, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

LOL! Good catch! Adjusting. --Tenebrae (talk) 17:27, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]