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The articles currently sourcing this are entirely offline. If you have a reasonable request to verify any fact in the article, please feel free to message me on my talk page and I'll do my best to provide a copy. If you have access to the LexisNexis Academic database through an educational institution, you can find most sources there. ~ RobTalk 14:53, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Wizardman (talk · contribs) 13:01, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]


I'll give this a review. Wizardman 13:01, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Here's what I found:

  • The second paragraph of the lead just seems to stop at Buffalo; adding a sentence or two about Hamilton would help round it out.
  • There's no reason to have every year in its own section; those I would just get rid of.
  • " the Tiger-Cats announced that they had resigned Akins" re-signed
  • The 2001 season is a little confusing as written, since it bounces back and forth between saying he had a lot of playing time and he had no playing time (the former appears to be right given the statistics). Maybe I'm misreading it but it reads a bit contradictory if you can fix that (it seems like it's trying to say he started with a lot and it shrunk as the season went on, which makes more sense worded that way).
  • "Akins' success was interrupted when he re-injured his collarbone with deep bruising" when was this? a date would help here, especially since it sounds like he would have missed a good amount of time, but the stats seem to say otherwise.
  • Anything after his release in 2004, i.e. getting a tryout with another team or a practice squad invite?
  • Ref titles shouldn't be in all-caps, despite the title probably looking like that in the source.

Overall not too bad. I'll put the article on hold and will pass it when the issues are fixed. Wizardman 15:02, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Wizardman: In order:
  • Whoops! Completely forgot to update the lead from what it was pre-expansion, I believe. It's now expanded. Thanks for the catch.
  • Done.
  • Fixed.
  • This is a bit of a complicated scenario. From what the sources say, he had a large role on the team right through the season, but toward the end he missed "games" because of a CFL import ratio quirk which required an American to be kept inactive to allow a key offensive lineman to return from the injured list. If you're not familiar, the CFL requires that a certain percentage of the active players on the team be Canadian, rather than American imports. When one American comes back, another American must go. I don't think it's wise to get into the import ratio stuff fully in this article, as it's something that requires explanation and it's not talked about in the source. It would smack of WP:SYNTH to fully explain this. On the subject of SYNTH, I can tell based on the statistics (16 games played, 18 game season) that the missed "games" must mean two games. I don't know that I can write that, though, as it's not specified in a single source that he missed exactly two games specifically to allow another player back on the roster. I do agree that "games" can misleadingly imply many games, though, so that's a bit tricky. Maybe the best solution is to just say "two" since it's a fairly obvious conclusion and call it a day, since the alternative is probably worse. Your thoughts on this would be appreciated. I also added a bit of text to emphasize he saw playing time even though he lost his starting position.
  • I've now noted "in late August". As far as length of injury goes, I was unable to find any sources on when he returned, unfortunately. He was never a big name in the CFL, so he appears to have quietly returned to the team within a few weeks.
  • Not that I was able to find. By then, he was a five-year veteran who never broke out, and I doubt any team would have shown much interest. On the other side of the coin, the average salary for a CFL player was only $80,000/year as of 2015 and it was less back in the early 2000s. Players who don't break out can't support themselves after their career is over on their former CFL salaries, so they have to make decisions about whether they stay "professional" or move on to starting a career, which gets more difficult with age. Akins probably could have gotten tryouts if he wanted to, but his prospects of becoming a breakout player at that point were very poor. I'm guessing he decided to call it a career and move on. Of course, this is all speculation, and I can't find any sources to confirm any of this. I don't like how abruptly this article ends, frankly, but he pretty much dropped off the face of the earth in the available sources.
  • Fixed.
Ping me if you'd like me to look at anything further. ~ Rob13Talk 15:45, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good from what I see, will double-check the above tomorrow to be sure. Wizardman 02:04, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I think the way you have it now is probably best, all things considered with that. Given a few of the article I've written about baseball guys that didn't play much, yeah I understand the "falling off the face of the earth" part, makes it harder to write. Since everything's fine now I'll pass the article. Wizardman 22:20, 26 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]