Talk:Tongariro National Park

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Map

The map does not actually show the park's location. GrahamBould 09:22, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Will put the map up for improvement. -HuBmaN!!!! 16:23, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Coverage of Tongariro Power scheme in this article

@Gertrude206. I have noted the section in this Tongariro National Park article that covers the Tongariro Power Scheme. I seek your opinion because of your extensive work on the article about the power scheme. My initial reaction is that this section should be removed entirely, because the power scheme is almost entirely built on land/rivers that are outside the boundary of the National Park. It is not a feature of the park, and appears to have limited effect on the park. Given that there is already a separate article about the power scheme, and that it is not within the park, I can't see any justification for including a section (although it could possibly be included in the "See also" section).

Referring to a rather old Tongariro National Park map in my possession (dated 1985 !), it seems that the only significant part of the Tongariro Power Scheme that lies within the boundaries of the National Park is the Tokaanu intake tunnel that runs underground roughly parallel and north of the saddle road between Lake Rotoaira and Tokaanu. The map indicates that the intake structure at Lake Rotoaira is apparently outside the boundary of the park, with only the tunnel itself lying beneath land within the National Park. Should we remove this section entirely ? What do you think ? Marshelec (talk) 07:12, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Marshelec I thought this section on the TPS was too detailed and am inclined to agree with you that the section should be deleted entirely. There could be a section in the Park article on the rivers saying that significant rivers like the Whanganui and Whangaehu rise in the Park. That would be the place to also note that a number of rivers rising in the Park contribute to the TPS even though the intake structures lie outside it. I can make a list of the rivers. --Gertrude206 (talk) 08:40, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the Gazetteer you are right that the Tokaanu tunnel intake is outside the Park but most of the tunnel is in the Park. Perhaps that could be covered in a section of the article about this northern/separate bit of the Park, Pihanga and Lake Rotopounamu.--Gertrude206 (talk) 08:55, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

National Park Management Plan

The Department of Conservation has published a National Park Management Plan for the park, and some updates, over the period 2006 to 2018. See: https://www.doc.govt.nz/about-us/our-policies-and-plans/statutory-plans/statutory-plan-publications/national-park-management/tongariro-national-park-management-plan/ Although this is a primary source, there is almost certainly useful content here that can either be cited directly, or used as a prompt to search for independent sources that cover topics of interest identified from reading the management plan. If the management plan is not cited directly, it would be worth adding as an external link. I will try to read the management plan myself and action at least some points, but it would be great to have others help._Marshelec (talk) 07:58, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ngāti Rangi

Some expansion is needed to cover the role of Ngāti Rangi as manawhenua for the area within the park on the southern side of Mount Ruapehu._Marshelec (talk) 03:20, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm happy to do this. I have some sources. Gertrude206 (talk) 05:03, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a sub-section on the iwi with interests in the park. Feel free to move it if there's a more appropriate place. A source is needed for the statement that the summits of the mountains are sacred. Also a sub-section about the rivers arising in the park and that they have cultural significance. I can do that but should rivers go in the Geography section rather than Māori history?

The section on the establishment of the park needs some work too acknowledging the issue of cultural redress https://www.tearawhiti.govt.nz/assets/Publications/OIA-responses/Tongariro-National-Park.pdf--Gertrude206 (talk) 03:34, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gertrude206 I moved the section on iwi and added a little on cultural redress, but please move or delete if you don't like it. Wainuiomartian (talk) 02:34, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gertrude206 I found a source for the summits being sacred, and have moved some text around. Does it flow okay? Wainuiomartian (talk) 04:29, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]