Talk:Tom Bombadil/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: BennyOnTheLoose (talk · contribs) 16:08, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(I'll be looking to claim points for the 2020 WikiCup for this review.) BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 16:08, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for taking this on, and good luck with your WikiCup entry. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:28, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Chiswick Chap I don't think the cited source supports the "In most film and radio adaptations of the story.." part in the Adaptations sections. If there is no source, I'd suggest changing this to something like "In some.." (even though that's less interesting). Everything else looks good to go. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:31, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Chiswick Chap (talk) 01:34, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Chiswick Chap. I'm happy to pass this for GA. Well done. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:35, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments: Chiswick Chap my initial comments are below. Happy to be challenged on, or discuss, any of this. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 16:28, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lead: "which also included Goldberry, Old Man Willow and the Barrow-wight. They were not then explicitly part of the older legends that became The Silmarillion, and are not mentioned in The Hobbit." - This feels to me like it will be meaningful to Tolkien fans but not so much to the general reader. I know the article covers this below, but consider either omitting this line or providing a little more context within the lead.

Good idea. Added glosses for each of these characters.

Appearances: Para beginning "Bombadil Goes Boating.." - Can a secondary source be added? Otherwise it looks a bit like like WP:OR. I did a quick search on Google Books and found a possibility.^[1] The same applies to other places where only the Tolkien fictional sources are cited.

Added. Where the text is just describing appearances in Tolkien's writings, the primary references are of course appropriate.

Appearances: "the Norse lay of Ótr" - I wasn't familiar with "lay" in this sense. Can this be linked, explained or reworded? (Maybe linked to the article Lai (poetic form)?)

Linked.

Adaptations (and lead): is there a source for "In most film and radio adaptations of the story, Bombadil is notable by his absence"?; "notable by his absence" - I'm not sure this is true for people unfamiliar with the books. Maybe "absent"?

Done.

Adaptations: "Bombadil has appeared in a number of other adaptations, including the Mind's Eye radio adaptation." It has already been mentioned he appears in the Mind's Eye adaptation, so perhaps "adaptations apart from" rather than "other adaptations, including"?

Well spotted. Trimmed.

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
I've assumed good faith regarding the offline sources.
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

^ Michael D. C. Drout (2007). J.R.R. Tolkien Encyclopedia: Scholarship and Critical Assessment. Taylor & Francis. pp. 3–. ISBN 978-0-415-96942-0.

[Drout2007-1] Michael D. C. Drout (2007). J.R.R. Tolkien Encyclopedia: Scholarship and Critical Assessment. Taylor & Francis. pp. 3–. ISBN 978-0-415-96942-0.

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