Talk:Tokyo Station/Archive 1

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Archive 1

Kanji

The use of kanji seems a little excessive, to the point of making the article hard to read; and the train lines should be linked.--Jpatokal Nov 13 2003

These things take time you know ;-). The edit button's on the right BTW ;-)) Ianb Nov 13 2003

Unlinked to any private railways?

"Unusually for a major Japanese station it is not linked to any private (i.e. non-JR) railway lines"

I have removed that statement because Tokyo Metro (a non-JR) railway company has been serving Tokyo Station with subway service since 1956 - Limitedexpresstrain 19:54, 13 June 2006 (UTC).

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: Move. Jafeluv (talk) 11:44, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Tōkyō Station → Tokyo Station – Per WP:COMMONNAME, most English source use "Tokyo" instead of "Tōkyō", for example this, this, and this. Hvn0413 (talk) 12:44, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Support. The city is at Tokyo, and a typeable title has obvious advantages over a title with special characters. We want the reader to understand that the name of the station corresponds to that of the city. Britannica used to be macron-crazy, but not so much recently. Kauffner (talk) 13:24, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Support: Agree the requested article title is correct rendering as per WP:COMMONNAME. Zarcadia (talk) 18:51, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Support I'm no fan of diacritic removal, but this is pedantic. There's no good reason for it to differ from Tokyo. --BDD (talk) 18:53, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Support. JR East does still use macrons on a lot of its station signage, although, interestingly, Tokyo Metro actually seems to be eliminating macron usage from its modern station signage. But as the normal English rendering without macrons generally seems to be more widespread in the English language press and official documentation such as the examples already provided above, I would agree that we should reflect this here as per WP:COMMONNAME. --DAJF (talk) 23:23, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Support per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Japan-related articles#Article titles. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:22, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
Support to be consistent with Tokyo. Hill Crest's WikiLaser! (BOOM!) 23:05, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Support. Tokyo is normally spelled without any accent marks. Apteva (talk) 03:18, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
Support. Tokyo is far easier to type than Tōkyō. Lukeno94 (talk) 14:59, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
Support. MOS:JAPAN cites use "modified Hepburn" with macrons, but this is an exception per Hepburn romanization article which states: Tokyo – not indicated at all. This is common for Japanese words that have been adopted into English. This is also the convention used in the de facto Hepburn used in signs and other English-language information around Japan, mentioned in the paragraph on legal status.. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:23, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

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Same situation exists for Osaka and Ōsaka Station

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I've taken the liberty of closing this discussion. I responded below, but the post to which I was responding was a blatant TBAN-violation. It's kind of off-topic to use an already-closed RM discussion as an opportunity to attack the titles of completely separate pages, and LBW has been warned numerous times not to discuss this particular topic. Therefore, since he will be unable to respond to me or to anyone else, the discussion section seems kind of pointless. elvenscout742 (talk) 02:06, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

The same silly inconsistency that was corrected by the above RfM also exists for Osaka and Ōsaka Station, Kyoto and Kyōto Station, Kobe and Kōbe Station... and so on...

It's trivial to research COMMONNAME in reliable sources:

Google reliable sources for "Ōsaka Station"

Google reliable sources for "Osaka Station"

Google reliable sources for "Kyōto Station"

Google reliable sources for "Kyoto Station"

Google reliable sources for "Kōbe Station"

Google reliable sources for "Kobe Station"

LittleBen (talk) 03:12, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

I don't know. I agree with IIO and BDD above, but DAJF was also right.[1] This article is very important, as are the ones you mention above. But I can see you moving from there to move Shiwachūō Station. Especially given that you cared so much about this issue to violate your topic ban countless times in the space of a week. elvenscout742 (talk) 05:13, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

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