Talk:Today Hong Kong, Tomorrow Taiwan, Day After Tomorrow Okinawa

Category:Chinese imperialism

I'm not sure if this is a necessary category for an article. The Okinawa issue is very different from the Hong Kong or Taiwan issues. Okinawa was not, historically, a Japanese territory at all before modern times. Therefore, it can be seen as 'Japanese imperialism' for Japanese conservatives to unconditionally link the Ryukyu independence movement with China.

Okinawa/Ryuku's relationship with Japan is more similar to Taiwan's relationship with China. Therefore, Japan's Okinawa issue cannot be seen as 'Chinese imperialism'.

I never support imperialism in the PRC, and I have added sources and categories where 'Chinese imperialism' is mentioned in the United front in Taiwan article. ProKMT (talk) 08:40, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am against adding Category:Chinese imperialism to the Today Hong Kong, Tomorrow Taiwan, Day After Tomorrow Okinawa articles, but I am not against adding Category:Chinese imperialism to the Today Hong Kong, Tomorrow Taiwan articles at all. The issue of Japanese imperialism cannot be overlooked in the Okinawa/Ryuku independence movement, and there is also the problem of damage caused by U.S. military bases excessively concentrated in Okinawa, not Japan as a whole, to the extent that it interferes with the lives of its residents.# (Of course, I don't deny that Okinawa needs a U.S. military base to prevent China from invading Taiwan.) ProKMT (talk) 08:50, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps the term "Chinese imperialism" would be more accurate. According to the most recent 2022 public opinion poll, only 3% of Okinawans wish for independence. It is not normal behavior for a dictatorial state to cause a commotion through cyberattacks and espionage. The fact that pro-independence groups like the Kariyushi Club exist is evidence that freedom of speech is present.

Western countries such as the UK, the US, and Japan support 2019–2020 Hong Kong protests and Taiwan to protect democracy from a dictatorship. In reality, free speech has become impossible in Hong Kong.

To draw a comparison, it would be like Russia launching cyberattacks and espionage against pro-independence groups in Scotland or Wales simply because the UK is providing military aid to Ukraine.

The issue between China and Hong Kong is not the same as the issue between Japan and Okinawa. 240B:C020:430:A440:EC28:DEC5:1C7:C23F (talk) 16:15, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]