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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 08:53, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
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I will crack on with this now! --K. Peake 08:53, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
Infobox and lead
[edit]- Change Columbia Recording Studios to Columbia Recording under the studios parameter in the infobox
- Pipe Tom Wilson to Tom Wilson (record producer)
- "which was released on his fourth studio album" → "first released on his fourth studio album,"
- Add a sentence with notable info about writing from the first section
- Move the recording sentence to being the one before lyrical content
- Mention next to the critics suggested part that the narrator advises Ramona not to follow others' advice
- Pipe Sara Lownds to Sara Dylan
- "for Another Side of Bob Dylan," → "for the album,"
- Remove the album release in August since that is not notable
- "have ranked the song as" → "have ranked it as"
- Pipe B-side to A-side and B-side
- "Belgium and Luxembourg in 1967, and has been" → "Belgium, and Luxembourg in 1967, and has since been"
- Mention what the several live versions include
- All done. I mentioned two of the several live versions in the lead. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 19:29, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
Background and recording
[edit]- "The "To Ramona" lyrics were" → "The lyrics of "To Ramona" were"
- Wikilink as the May Fair Hotel instead
- Add a comma after "All I Really Want to Do"
- "On June 9 at" → "On June 9, 1964, at" per this being a new para
- Remove the comma before Another Side of Bob Dylan
- Pipe Tom Wilson to Tom Wilson (record producer), while mentioning that he was the producer of all the tracks
- "as the sixth track, the last" → "as the sixth track and the last"
- Remove the release year of "The Last Letter" from brackets when it is already mentioned in prose
- All Done. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 18:45, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
Lyrical interpretation
[edit]- Maybe add relevant text to the img of Suze Rotolo?
- "The song ends with" → "It ends with"
- [8] should solely be invoked at the end of the sentence
- "argue that the song may indeed refer to Baez," → "argue that Dylan may indeed refer to her,"
- "Oliver Trager and" → "Oliver Trager, and"
- Pipe Sara Lownds to Sara Dylan
- "John Nogowski saw it" → "John Nogowski sees it"
- "Jim Beviglia wrote that the track" → "Jim Beviglia writes that the track"
- "as the narrator expresses" → "as they express"
Critical reception
[edit]- Retitle to Reception per the rankings
- "Heylin described the track as" → "Heylin describes the track as"
- "words or advice."" → "words or advice"." per MOS:QWQ
- "Trager praised the" → "Trager praises the"
- Amended per the four points above. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 18:59, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- "but added that "Dylan fumbles" → "but added how "Dylan fumbles"
- Reworked per WP:QUOTEFARM comment below. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 18:59, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- "and described it as" → "and describes it as"
- "has ever written."" → "has ever written"."
- Wikilink Rolling Stone
- "remarked of "To Ramona" and" → "remarks of "To Ramona" and"
- Amended per the four points above. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 18:59, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- Cut down the amount of direct quoting for the above per WP:QUOTEFARM
- I made some amendments. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 18:59, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
Live performances and later releases
[edit]- Make the releases para the last of this section instead
- Pipe B-side to A-side and B-side
- "Belgium and Luxembourg" → "Belgium, and Luxembourg"
- Wikilink compilation album
- "Dylan's older songs "re-envisioned almost to the point of non-recognition."" → "his older songs "re-envisioned almost to the point of non-recognition"." per MOS:QWQ
Credits and personnel
[edit]- Pipe Tom Wilson to Tom Wilson (record producer)
Notes
[edit]- The ref is not needed for this note when it is invoked at the end of the actual sentence
- Removed. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 19:30, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
References
[edit]- Copyvio score looks decent at 37.5%
- Wikilink Scarecrow Press per MOS:LINK2SECT
- Pipe Carlton to Welbeck Publishing Group
- Wikilink Princeton University Press and author-link Timothy Hampton
- Wikilink Penguin Books
- Wikilink Constable & Robinson
- Pipe Faber And Faber to Faber and Faber
- Bodley Head → The Bodley Head with the wikilink
- Pipe Black Dog & Leventhal to Black Dog & Leventhal Publishers
- Wikilink Billboard Books and shouldn't this be italicised?
- I tried, but got an error message "Italic or bold markup not allowed in: publisher=" BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 17:24, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- Maybe cite ref 13 solely in place of refs 11 and 17?
- I've retained these as there are a couple of direct quotations cited. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 17:24, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- Pipe Uncut to Uncut (magazine) on ref 19
- Wikilink Rolling Stone on ref 21 and why is 2015 in the date?
- There is a note on the article, which has a publiction date of May 24, 2020, that "This list originally appeared in a 2015 Special Edition" BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 17:24, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- Wikilink The Guardian on ref 22
- Newport Daily News → The Newport Daily News on ref 25 with the wikilink
- Wikilink USA Today on ref 27
- Cite Variety for ref 28, piping to Variety (magazine)
- Wikilink The New York Observer on ref 31
- Done, except where noted above. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 17:24, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
External links
[edit]- Good
Final comments and verdict
[edit]- On hold until all of the issues are fixed; nice job on this one! --K. Peake 11:14, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- Many thank, K. Peake. Let me know if anything else is required. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 19:31, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- ✓ Pass now, did some brief copy editing but nice job here! --K. Peake 09:17, 22 November 2022 (UTC)