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I am curious about the source of the information about the origin of the name of Tingis as given in the article.

Every other name in West Africa beginning with ti or ta is Tamazigh.

It would be a strange coincidence if in this case the name came from Greece.

S710 21:45, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi S710. There's no confusion there. Tinjis was a Berber wife of the Berber hero Antaios.

As for its relation to the city of Tangier, here are a few refs:

Adrian Room (2004), Placenames of the World: Origins and Meanings of the Names. P.350
Henry Ellis (1827), Original Letters, Illustrative of English History. P.269
James Grey Jackson (1809), An account of the empire of Marocco, and the district of Suse. P.93
George Long (1843), The Penny Cyclopædia of the Society for the Diffusion of Useful Knowledge. P.19 -- Szvest 22:11, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Plutarch is also a useful source:
Now, the people of Tingis [Read3r: "The people of Tingis are the Libayans => ancient Berbers"] have a myth that after the death of Antaeus, his wife, Tinga, consorted with Heracles, and that Sophax was the fruit of this union, who became king of the country and named a city which he founded after his mother;[1]
I notice with you that he called the goddess "Tinga" and the city "Tingis" and at the same time, the city is named after "Tinga". I think Tinga is more Berberic than Tingis which can be its hellinzation Latinization like as the name "Antaios". Read3r 13:15, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I found this in arabic: وعبر البحر المتوسط يلوح جبل طارق من ربوة منار مالاباطا على مبعدة عشرة كيلومترات شرقا. وعلى مبعدة أثنى عشر كيلو مترا إلى الغرب يلتقي المتوسط بالمحيط عند رأس سبارطل. وتلتقي الصخور بالأساطير على مقربة من رأس سبارطل في مغارة هرقل. الكهف العميق الذي ننفذ إلى داخله في عتمة ما تلبث حتى تنجلي عن فتحة النور. نافذة تحت الجبل تطل على مياه الأطلسي وترسم وجه رجل صارخ. وفي السقف نرى دوائر غائرة في قبة الحجر. إنها الرحى التي قدت من بدن الكهف لتعد طحين الناس. فالأسطورة القديمة تختلط بخبز البشر في هذه البقعة. والأسطورة تقول إن المكان كان ممتدا يصل إفريقيا بأوربا ويفصل بحر الروم (البحر المتوسط) عن بحر الظلمات (المحيط الأطلسي) ولما كان لأطلس ابن نبتون (إله البحر) ثلاث بنات يعشن في بستان يطرح تفاحا ذهبيا ويحرسهن وحش. قاتله هرقل (ابن جوبيتر) وهزمه، لكن هرقل في غضبة من غضبات الصراع ضرب الجبل فانشق لتختلط مياه المتوسط الزرقاء بمياه الأطلسي الخضراء وتنفصل أوربا عن إفريقيا، ثم يزوج هرقل ابنه سوفاكيس لإحدى بنات نبتون ليثمر زواجهما بنتا جميلة أسموها طانجيس، ومنها كانت طنجة..[2] According to me, he confused many stories, but I don't surely know whether there is such story too. Read3r 18:22, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]