Talk:Timoleague Friary/GA1

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Reviewer: Ceoil (talk · contribs) 02:42, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

The article is well written and the sourcing mostly fine (more later), but you are missing an archecture section, that could maybe similar to that in Kilcrea Friary. Am traveling atm, but could add from Keohane next weekend...I think you have this book also? Ceoil (talk) 04:19, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

May be helpful for this: Mooney, Canice (1957). "Franciscan Architecture in Pre-Reformation Ireland (Part III)". Journal of the Royal Society of Antiquaries of Ireland. Ceoil (talk) 04:22, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for taking a look at this. Yes I actually had the exact same thought yesterday, and as I was passing, I stopped and got a booklet for the friary which I've just used to start the architecture section. I'm going to mine the booklet, and then I'll turn to the Keohane which I do indeed have in my possession. Xx78900 (talk) 08:25, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Great additions, and will get back to the review over weekend. Kinahan and Crowley both have harv reff errors. Also, the lead seems disproportionately small compared the body of the article...maybe beef it up. Ceoil (talk) 03:15, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

• whose feast day was celebrated down to the seventeenth-century. - from when, and should "down" be "until".
• The friary is a National Monument in State Care (#21) and its RMP (Record of Monuments and Places) number is CO123-050002-.[4] It is listed as a discovery point on the Wild Atlantic Way.[5] - not very appetising....#21 & CO123-050002 are jarring numbers and best left for infoboxes. Say why its a "on the Wild Atlantic Way". Or maybe praise it o its merits and not assume the reader knows what the Wild Atlantic Way is. Ceoil (talk) 05:08, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

  I've redone the lede section. I removed the bit about the 17th-century - it was there before I started editing the page and I never adjusted it. Unsourced and I unnecessary. I removed the numbers. I left in the Wild Atlantic Way, because I think that point of information has merit, but I didn't explain what the WAW is. Not because I think it shouldn't be explained, but I couldn't think of a concise way of doing so, without derailing the entire sentence. It's a hard thing to define - "on the Wild Atlantic Way, a coastal route encompassing the west coast of Ireland and marked with various points of interest" seems like... a lot. Thanks. Xx78900 (talk) 12:58, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

As a post script aside, think you made a good choice re the Wild Atlantic Way. Myself and my two brothers all married Americans, and when the in-law visit they all want to visit the "Wild Atlantic Way", its obv been a huge marketing success (vs the ring of kerry in the 80s), so its prob safe to assume general readers will have some knowledge or grounding. Ceoil (talk) 13:35, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for this - I’m going to be away until Monday, but I’ll implement those (and any further) changes then. I’m not the most in-the-know about Harvard referencing, we used MLA in college. What needs to change? Xx78900 (talk) 13:59, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

• Its not a big deal, its just that the anchors in the refs are different to those defined in the sources...I might have a look later. Another thing, should "Historical artefacts" come after "Archecture"...Ceoil (talk) 23:56, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

  Changed the order. I see the issues but don't know how to fix them. The Kinahan reference's years of publication are being interpreted as a name because it's a range. And I have no idea why the Crowley reference isn't anchoring. Xx78900 (talk) 13:00, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

  I cant figure it out either. Anyway, would like to do another read through, and hopefully finish this out in the next few days. The article is great. Ceoil (talk) 12:03, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

  No rush whatsoever, take your time. And thank you. Xx78900 (talk) 23:07, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

  Its a pass from me, on a friary have often visited and been long interested in, nice work on doing service to its wiki entry. Ceoil (talk) 23:24, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

  Thank you very much for the review! Xx78900 (talk) 23:39, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

PS re the cite errors, would suggest you request help on one of the technical noticeboards or from somebody you know is clued up in this area. No doubt, all you need is a 10 to 15 character string in the sources htlm to tell it to ignore the usual, default anchoring naming convention. But as I say, don't do cite templates and that stuff is double Dutch to me. Ceoil (talk) 00:36, 31 January 2022 (UTC)