Talk:Tim Barrow

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Review: October 24, 2024. (Reviewed version).

A fact from Tim Barrow appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 15 February 2013 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Tim Barrow, the current British ambassador to Russia, was formerly the ambassador to Ukraine?

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University

Barrow did not attend Warwick University - someone seems to have misunderstood his time at Warwick School. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:41, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Removed again a restored incorrect reference to him studying at the University of Warwick which cited an incorrect source in a Russian newspaper. The paper had probably mistranslated “Warwick School”. NB following his appointment as the UK's new ambassador to the EU several UK newspapers also incorrectly claimed that he studied at the University of Warwick probably sourcing that information from the incorrect information which was then on this Wikipedia page. Peter Dunn —Preceding undated comment added 08:26, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Appointment suspended

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c255gnd9vl5o

TShape12 (talk) 10:59, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

His Excellency?

This article shows Sir Tim has the style of His Excellency (HE) - so does the appointment as the UK's National Security Adviser entitle Sir Tim to the style of His Excellency (HE)? He had this style whilst a serving Ambassador, but I can not find anywhere that confirm this for the NSA role (which I appreciate is a similar level). Former Ambassadors do not use this style in the UK, even as a courtesy... so not sure why this this style is being used for Sir Tim. 2A02:C7C:A8DB:4D00:ECB5:EF3E:836C:9A97 (talk) 00:57, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. IntentionallyDense (talk) 02:59, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Tim Barrow/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: LibStar (talk · contribs) 00:22, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: IntentionallyDense (talk · contribs) 03:21, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will review this shortly. IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:21, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	IntentionallyDense (talk) 21:05, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.	IntentionallyDense (talk) 21:05, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.	IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:35, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).	I checked about half of the sources and found some issues. IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:35, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
	2c. it contains no original research.	IntentionallyDense (talk) 21:05, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.	IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:35, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.	IntentionallyDense (talk) 21:05, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).	IntentionallyDense (talk) 21:05, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.	IntentionallyDense (talk) 21:05, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.	IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:35, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.	IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:35, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.	IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:35, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
	7. Overall assessment.	I'm going to put this on hold so that the nominator has time to fix the areas I suggested. IntentionallyDense (talk) 21:05, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply] Prose is good, everything is nicely cited, no glaring issues etc. I didn't have to much work with this review but I did spot check some sources and read through the whole article and found very little issues (which have now been resolved). Pass! IntentionallyDense (talk) 02:57, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What is going on with ref2? IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:35, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will remove. LibStar (talk) 22:01, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov expressed his wish to Barrow that "such dangerous and provocative actions will be strongly suppressed by the British security in the future." I'm not seeing this in ref 10 [1] also the title I'm getting for ref 10 is "Dagestan President Proposes New Amnesty for Militants". IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:35, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Have removed sentence as it's unverified claim. LibStar (talk) 23:13, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good. IntentionallyDense (talk) 02:55, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ref 20 isn't working for me [2] IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:35, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Have now removed, will look for another source. LibStar (talk) 22:50, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Found another source. LibStar (talk) 23:10, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
GCMG LVO MBE Acronyms should be spelt out in full when first used. IntentionallyDense (talk) 20:40, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Have removed, as this is spelt out in Honours section. LibStar (talk) 23:18, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do you really need the one citation in the lead? IntentionallyDense (talk) 20:40, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
HM Ambassador Spell out acronym in full. IntentionallyDense (talk) 20:40, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
have removed HM, means Her Majesty's but not required in this context. LibStar (talk) 22:55, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
FCDO's Spell out in full. IntentionallyDense (talk) 20:40, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done LibStar (talk) 22:53, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The sections "Education" and "Personal life" Are both really short. Is there any way you could either expand or combine them? IntentionallyDense (talk) 21:05, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Now combined LibStar (talk) 22:51, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
where he read English Is this a specific thing or just the language he reads? IntentionallyDense (talk) 21:05, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
at UK universities it means "he studied". LibStar (talk) 21:53, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good. IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:02, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.