Talk:Tiffany Aching
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Is "Like the harry potter books" really necessary as comparison? All Pratchett's characters age naturally, and anyway, if comparison were needed then surely Mildred Hubble would be a better comparison. Being, you know, a witch.
Famous Five reference.
[edit]I can see what the author meant with this reference, but it seems rather odd and random to me so i've removed it.
MrTrent9484 (talk) 02:11, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Borrowing?
[edit]I don't think that what Tiffany was doing was Borrowing, although it was probably something similar. Borrowing, as I understand it, is inserting your awareness into another being's, so gently and subtly that the other mind isn't aware of the intrusion. Does anybody know if there's an authority for considering it borrowing because I'm only a fan/reader of the series and don't know what, if anything, the author's said on the subject.JDZeff (talk) 19:16, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
I don't think witches make much distinction between Borrowing and "something similar". EliseEdits (talk) 08:25, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Tiffany's age
[edit]@WikiHannibal: Re the reverting of the restoring of Tiffany's ages: what is unsourced? Do you think that we need to provide specific page numbers for her age? Smith(talk) 19:27, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
- Yes it is unsourced and yes, you would have to provide sources within each book where it says her age or at least hints at it in some way. How do you know how long a discworld year is and how quickly people age there? Btljs (talk) 19:35, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
- See here: [1] Btljs (talk) 19:37, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
- Pratchett uses common years when he describes lengths of time throughout the books, which are set roughly in real time to when they were published. I can agree that we might need to provide sources for age, but we don't need to provide a source that he's using common years, not celestial years, as that isn't done anywhere else that I've seen. Smith(talk) 20:15, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
- Sources for ages:
- "She was nine years old and felt that Tiffany was going to be a hard name to live up to. " - The Wee Free Men
- "Anyway, she was eleven now, and had a feeling that after a certain age you shouldn’t slide down holes in the ground to talk to little men." - A Hat Full of Sky
- "Tiffany gave up and sighed. “I’m almost thirteen,” she said. “I can look after myself.”" and "It was her birthday....Thirteen years old. But she’d been thinking of herself as “nearly thirteen” for months now." - Wintersmith
- "You’re not sixteen yet and I see you running around nursing people and bandaging people and who knows what chores. " - I Shall Wear Midnight
- No specific age given in The Shepherd's Crown, but it's said that she gave You the cat, which was a kitten in Wintersmith, "to Granny Weatherwax herself only a few years ago."
- Don't know the exact page numbers; I have ebooks. Also, a previous version of the article simply said that she was in her late teens at the end of the series, which lines up with the timeline of assuming the releases happen in real time. Smith(talk) 20:33, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
- This is what I asked for. I think the quotes can be used as refs without page number for the time being, because there are different editions. As for Shepherd's Crown, 19 is still OR. Late teens is from the book, so should be Ok as a quote.--WikiHannibal (talk) 21:23, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
- Assuming editions aren't a problem, I can get page numbers for quotes from the first three books. Midnight and Crown are out of my hands for the moment. – The Millionth One (talk) (contribs) 21:51, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
- Done. Smith(talk) 11:33, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
- I thought "in her late teens" is a direct quot from somewhere in the book. Maybe I'm wrong. Could you please check? We can't infer from the age of the cat that she is now "in her late teens" - we do not know how old the cat is in Crown. --WikiHannibal (talk) 15:54, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
- I don't remember there being a direct quote - we know it's been a couple years since the last one based on Preston's progression, but an exact age isn't given. We know that the cat is a few years old - again, not an exact age. Smith(talk) 09:26, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
- I thought "in her late teens" is a direct quot from somewhere in the book. Maybe I'm wrong. Could you please check? We can't infer from the age of the cat that she is now "in her late teens" - we do not know how old the cat is in Crown. --WikiHannibal (talk) 15:54, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
- Done. Smith(talk) 11:33, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
- Assuming editions aren't a problem, I can get page numbers for quotes from the first three books. Midnight and Crown are out of my hands for the moment. – The Millionth One (talk) (contribs) 21:51, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
- This is what I asked for. I think the quotes can be used as refs without page number for the time being, because there are different editions. As for Shepherd's Crown, 19 is still OR. Late teens is from the book, so should be Ok as a quote.--WikiHannibal (talk) 21:23, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
Young adult fiction
[edit]Aren't the TA books part of TP's young adult reader output like Dodger, rather than mainstream Discworld novels? There's no mention of this in the article. --Ef80 (talk) 14:25, 24 August 2016 (UTC)