Talk:Thymaya Payne

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Actors and Filmmakers

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers.

Chicago

	Chicago portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Chicago, which aims to improve all articles or pages related to Chicago or the Chicago metropolitan area.ChicagoWikipedia:WikiProject ChicagoTemplate:WikiProject ChicagoChicago articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Something cribbed, direction uncertain

Film Independent Talent Guide Bio for Thymaya Payne — n.d.; accessed 7 March 2021

Thymaya Payne is a University of Chicago and AFI graduate born in New York and currently resides in Los Angeles. Payne has directed a number of films including the shorts: Apparent Horizon, starring Peter Coyote, Let's Not and Say We Did, and Coup De Grace, which premiered at the HBO Latino Film festival. In the summer of 2010 he completed his documentary film Love Limits, which was later released by Icarus Films.

In 2008, Payne began a four-year journey to direct and produce an in-depth documentary about Somali piracy and its root causes called Stolen Seas. The film premiered at the Locarno Film festival and was awarded the Boccolino' D'oro. Later, at the Palm Springs Film Festival, Stolen Seas won the John Schlesinger award for best Documentary. A dangerous 90-minute immersion in a world where lawlessness applies to all sides" said Variety. The New York Times called Stolen Seas Magnificent. Stolen Seas was theatrically released in early 2013.
Nairobi was workshopped and developed as part of the 2013 Film Independent Screenwriting Lab."

Terrible copy editing, since fixed here, mostly by myself earlier today.

Thymaya Payne — page creation permlink from 3 December 2013

Thymaya Payne is a University of Chicago and AFI graduate born in New York and currently residing in Los Angeles and New York. Thymaya Payne is also an award winning documentary and narrative film maker with extensive production and project management experience.
In 2008 Thymaya began a four-year journey to direct and produce an in-depth documentary about Somali piracy and its root causes called Stolen Seas. The film premiered at the Locarno Film festival and was awarded the Boccolino' D'oro. Later, at the Palm Springs Film Festival, Stolen Seas won the John Schlesinger award for best Documentary. "A dangerous 90-minute immersion in a world where lawlessness applies to all sides" said Variety. The New York Times called the Stolen Seas "Magnificent." Stolen Seas was theatrically released in early 2013.

If the copy editing at Film Independent was any better, I'd have a strong suspicion that Wikipedia was the infringing side, but damn, the copy at Film Independent sure looks like a rushed, amateur job. Even so, I have a moderately strong suspicion in the same direction. — MaxEnt 23:01, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

After discovering a second crib (see below), little uncertainty lingers about who copied whom. — MaxEnt 23:51, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

BLP unsourced

I did some further digging on the unsourced BLP material.

Most of that material originated in this edit:

Thymaya Payne: Difference between revisions — 1 April 2019

This was supplied by User:Thymaya1 who has only ever edited on this page.

Neither of the parental names showed up at all in a succession of Google searches, and I was not able to find a single film-industry interview concerning the subject's upbringing or family life.

This material almost certainly needs to be blanked, but I'll leave that resolution up to a second set of eyes. — MaxEnt 23:41, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Second crib

From IMDB Thymaya Payne Biography — n.d.; accessed 7 March 2021

In 2015, Thymaya co-wrote and produced the independent film Live Cargo directed by Logan Sandler, starring Keith Stanfield and Dree Hemingway. Live Cargo premiered in competition at the 2016 Tribeca Film Festival and had its theatrical debut in spring 2017.
Thymaya co-wrote the short film, Across Our Lands, directed by Fiona Godivier, which premiered at the Cannes Film Festival 2017.

Thymaya Payne: Difference between revisions — 1 April 2019 (this diff also mentioned above)

In 2015, Thymaya co-wrote and produced the independent film Live Cargo directed by Logan Sandler, starring Keith Stanfield and Dree Hemingway. Live Cargo premiered in competition at the 2016 Tribeca Film Festival and international at the Warsaw Film Festival among others and had its theatrical debut in spring 2017.
He was also an associate producer on several independent films including Justin Kelly's, King Cobra starring James Franco and Christian Slater
Thymaya also co-wrote a short film called Across Our Lands, directed by Fiona Godivier, which premiered at the Cannes Film Festival in 2017.

The blurb at IMDB is credited to Tim Frazer (a one-edit wonder), who shares the subject's purported maternal surname.

With the detailed biographical information supplied here seemingly unavailable online, one can not reasonably overlook the all-in-the-family factor. — MaxEnt 23:49, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My "quick" dip into this article to clean up the notability flag (clearly not needed, based on the body of work) turned into all of this mess. I've already greatly overspent my allotted time, and now I'm moving along, torch passed. — MaxEnt 00:10, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]