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Citation for Wagner's proposal of Bruckner as one of the Three B's?

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I'd love to know the source for this! Not that I don't believe it, of course. I'm just really interested to hear Wagner's support of Bruckner. Usually all you read about is Bruckner's love for Wagner, which makes poor Anton look like he's groveling. I'd love to read a source that discussed Wagner's returning the favor for his friend, who was in no way the opera composer's subordinate. —The Realms of Gold (talk) 02:03, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Original Three B's

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Hans von Bülow did not coin the phrase; he simply substituted Brahms for Berlioz, the original third B in the phrase coined by Peter Cornelius in 1854 in an article in the Berlin Musical Gazette. See Jacques Barzun, Berlioz and the Romantic Century, Vol. II, 3rd edition, 1969, p. 76. See also http://www.hberlioz.com/Germany/weimar.htm#cg1690 which reproduces a letter from Berlioz to Liszt referring to the article in the Musical Gazette. Edwin Editor (talk) 19:06, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Correct, though I've always been amazed that someone could, in all seriousness, put Berlioz AND NOT BRAHMS in the same category as Bach and Beethoven.--96.245.98.213 (talk) 05:59, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The year 1854 should be in the article. I am adding it. Zaslav (talk) 05:12, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This has no basis in fact but...

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I think Beatles should be the third B. --Jim Raynor (talk) 14:13, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

We always thought the Three B's were Bergdorf Goodman, Bloomingdales, and B. Altman, which were/are upscale department stores close to each other in NYC in the "old days."Richopp (talk) 16:57, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Britten?

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What is a "fourth B" suggested by David Matthews doing in this article? If that's included, there must be plenty of other equally worthy suggestions to include. Zaslav (talk) 05:10, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]