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The Shell stations

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Should we mention the shell stations? unlike DT4, there is no station code reserved for them. However, the recently updated official LTA map (accidentally?) showed one of the shell station as TE22A Gardens Bay East. In this case, should we also include the other shell station (presumably TE4A)?

For NS6, NE2 and DT4, we do not list the name because these names were never announced (NS6 might have been named in an old newspaper in the 90s but this is not confirmed). However, for TE4A, the LTA contracts refer to the station as TGR. The signs by LTA uses Tagora (there is no name used for DT4 during construction based on Google Maps, Hume is only shown in concept arts). So technically there is a name for the station (like Bukit Brown). Thoughts? -115.66.196.146 (talk) 15:27, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes, about TE22A, its official name for the code, is Founder's Memorial. Thanks 115.066.196.146!

Rolling Stock

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There is no section on the CT251 on the article and it needs to be added thanks (sorry I have no time to do it myself). 1.02 editor (C651 set 217/218) 11:48, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Improving lead

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The Thomson–East Coast line (TEL) is a medium-capacity Mass Rapid Transit (MRT) line under development in Singapore. Coloured brown on the rail map, it is fully underground at 43 kilometres (27 mi) long and consists of 32 stations, and will be among the world's longest driverless rapid transitlines. It will run through a combined north–south and east–west corridor, starting in the north at Woodlands town, passing through Upper Thomson and the towns of Ang Mo Kio and Bishan, after that heading south to Orchard Road and Marina Bay, then running eastwards along the east coast through Kallang, Marine Parade and Bedok South, before ending at Upper East Coast.

Initial two separate lines, the line was announced on 15 August 2014 by the Land Transport Authority as a merger of the then planned Thomson line (TSL) and the Eastern Region line (ERL). By then, construction of the Thomson line has begun in January 2014. The line is set to be opened in stages, with stage 1 (from the Woodlands North to Woodlands South stations) opened in January 2020 and the last stage (from the Bedok South to Sungei Bedok stations) opening in 2024. In January 2019, a new infill station Founders' Memorial station was announced, with the LTA also discussing the possibility of integrating the Changi Airport Branch into the TEL. When fully opened, it is expected to serve about 500,000 commuters daily in the initial years, rising to one million commuters daily in the long term. It is the fourth MRT line to be operated by SMRT Trains Ltd and also the fourth to be completely automated and driverless.

The line will be served by Mandai Depot and East Coast Integrated Depot, which will house the line's rolling stock, the CT251. The Land Transport Authority announced on 11 August 2017 that stations along the line will accept only cashless payments after the existing lines were converted in December 2018.

Working on the lead, what do yall think?--ZKang123 (talk) 01:49, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ZKang123: Mostly fine, but I would suggest a few changes. For the first paragraph, change 'at 43km long and consists of 32 stations' to 'serving 32 stations over 43km', change 'running through' to 'running along', and 'after that' to 'before'
For the second paragraph, it might be better to rewrite the first paragraph as 'The line was announced by the Land Transport Authority on 15 August 2014, with the merger of the previously planned Thomson and Eastern Region lines'. Also, remove 'new' from 'new infill station', change 'discussing the possibility of' to 'considering', and change 'in the initial years' to 'initially'.
For the last paragraph, rewrite the first sentence as 'The line has two depots, Mandai Depot and East Coast Integrated Depot, and services are operated by CT251 trains.' and remove the part about cashless top-ups, as it's non-notable. Other than that, good work! R22-3877 (talk) 08:22, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the suggestions, will implement the changes and redo the lead. I am quite free recently and have been improving some related MRT articles.--ZKang123 (talk) 08:58, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"to be commissioned" stations

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Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have recently visited Caldecott MRT station and if you go to the Thomson-East Coast Line (TEL) platform, you will see the TEL system map but with TEL3 stations and a "To be commissioned" notice below them. Stations that are to be commissioned should not be included in the article. What are your thoughts on this? mtresearch(talk) 07:18, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why should stations labelled 'to be commissioned' not be included in the article? The list is meant to include every station regardless of status and unopened stations are clearly marked at the side. Seloloving (talk) 08:52, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"to be commissioned" stations have not been opened so people who are not familiar with the MRT may think that the stations are open to the public. mtresearch(talk) 01:14, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It's clearly labelled at the side of each station on whether they are opened or not. In any case, travellers are not meant to be using Wikipedia to navigate. If we removed inactive stations from the list, there would be no stations listed on future MRT line pages. Seloloving (talk) 01:51, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
you have said that the stations are labelled open or closed, some people might have a project to do and might need to know whether the stations are commissioned, under construction, closed until future developments, etc. mtresearch(talk) 00:15, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The stations' statuses are clearly labelled. I still do not see any way someone can be confused by it if they read the article properly. I can clearly see which stations are opened, opening soon, or delayed.
In any case, Wikipedia is not meant for someone to wholly base their research on. It's only the starting point of their research. Students are expected to check the sources themselves. Professionals will not be using Wikipedia. Seloloving (talk) 03:39, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@MacseTresearch Firstly, that "To be commissioned" sticker that you saw isn't just on Caldecott MRT station TEL platform only, it's pasted on all other TE1–TE9 stations as well. In fact it was already listed and greyed out in the train's PID itself way before the "To be commissioned" was pasted. Lastly, Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a reliable source hence whoever using it for their research should do it at their own risk, the sources included are reliable and can be used to their research, however as mentioned above by Seololoving, nobody should wholly based their research on Wikipedia only. Furthermore, schools lecturer in Singapore always advise students that Wikipedia shouldn't be used for their assignment/project/etc, and they should instead search for scholarly materials instead. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 05:12, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Suggested improvements

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Just an observation or 2 suggested for improvement:

1) the intro section is overly long and verbose, relative to the article content. There's stuff in the intro that if omitted, wouldn't detract from the article quality. 2) content has been added to the intro section that is covered in the article main body. It thus seems that content would be better moved to the article main body. I refer to for example the para re improved signage. That para generally seems sub-optimal since the neither the source nor the para state when the improvements were implemented. 3) The article would be better with a separate section titled 'future developments'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.156.73.100 (talk) 00:54, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Line 13 (Singapore MRT)" listed at Redirects for discussion

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The redirect Line 13 (Singapore MRT) has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 9 § Line 13 (Singapore MRT) until a consensus is reached. Jay 💬 09:25, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Line 14 (Singapore MRT)" listed at Redirects for discussion

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The redirect Line 14 (Singapore MRT) has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 9 § Line 14 (Singapore MRT) until a consensus is reached. Jay 💬 09:25, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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