Talk:Thomas Jefferson Ramsdell

Thomas Jefferson Ramsdell was one of the Social sciences and society good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
March 27, 2021	Good article nominee	Listed
February 26, 2023	Good article reassessment	Delisted

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on May 25, 2008.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Thomas Jefferson Ramsdell built the opera house where James Earl Jones started his career?

Current status: Delisted good article

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Please use these additional sources

Fedder, Mark (2017-04-27). "City bereaved by the loss of its grand old man". Manistee News Advocate. Retrieved 2021-01-16.
Russell, Curran N.; Baer, Donna Degen (1954). "Thomas Jefferson Ramsdell". The lumberman's legacy. Manistee, MI: Manistee County Historical Society. p. 31. OCLC 577250792. Retrieved 2021-01-16.
Commins, Pat (2021). IRISH IMMIGRANTS IN MICHIGAN : a history in stories. S.l: HISTORY PRESS US. p. 139. ISBN 9781467146319. OCLC 1200027664.
MNA Staff (2015-11-12). "The residence of T.J. Ramsdell". Manistee News Advocate. Retrieved 2021-01-16.
McCann, Dennis (1999). Dennis McCann takes you for a ride : stories from the byways of Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Illinois. Amherst, Wis: Amherst Press. p. 63. ISBN 9780942495676. OCLC 41211475.
"Thomas J. Ramsdell". The Michigan Banker. Vol. 13. May 1917. p. 11. OCLC 965453642.
Royce, Julie (2007). Traveling Michigan's sunset coast : exploring Michigan's west coast beach towns, from New Buffalo to Mackinaw City. Indianapolis, IN: Dog Ear Publishing. p. 417. ISBN 9781598583212. OCLC 123907428.
"The Ramsdell". The Ramsdell. 2020-10-15. Retrieved 2021-01-16.

The anecdote about the mural in the Ramsdell Theater that feature two painted nudes with the faces of local women, recounted in both McCann 1999 & Royce 2007, would be a great Did you know (DYK) hook.

Peaceray (talk) 07:28, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Thomas Jefferson Ramsdell/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: JPxG (talk · contribs) 03:19, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'll do my best! jp×g 03:19, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Y Good to go.
N Must be fixed before passing.
Not required, but would be nice.

Copyvio

Y Earwig's checker finds nothing from any online sources.

Stability

Y Article is quite stable, has been for its entire existence, and there are no active controversies.
Y Some additional sources were suggested on the talk page in January, of which a few made it into the article.

Ref check

N This partnership continued until the retirement of both parties from active law practice in 1897 How can this be cited to the Cyclopedia of Michigan published in 1890?

Done - Source #4 Michigan Legislature Biography says, he formed a partnership with another lawyer that lasted until 1897 when they retired.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:07, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

N There were accounts of men walking all the way to Traverse City (over 50 miles) just to get a document that would get them out of the Manistee County jail. Don't see this in the Cyclopedia anywhere.

Done Replaced Ref # 4 with - City of Manistee, Michigan. City of Manistee, Manistee Commercial Historic District Survey Report (Report). Manistee Commercial Historic District. p. 24. "There are accounts of men walking to Traverse City to get a document which would release them from the Manistee County jail."

N The wooden bridge was destroyed in the Great Fire of 1871. Cannot find this in the Cyclopedia.

Done Replaced with web page cite. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:22, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Was he actually a Kentucky Colonel, or did he just have the personality of one?

Done In Personal life section - Ramsdell had the personality of the Kentucky Colonel type--Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:57, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Could do with a little more about the Ramsdell Theater (from current Ref 6, "Learn about Ramsdell theatre history"), square footage, cost, fancy curtains, current use, etc)

Done Added hatnote for "Main article: Ramsdell Theatre" --Doug Coldwell (talk) 22:02, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Media

User:JPxG All issues have been addressed. Can you take another look. Thanks. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 22:06, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lol, I didn't think you would get around to it before I was finished doing the first pass of the review... I will try to haul ass on the rest of this! jp×g 22:30, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Doug Coldwell: Okay, I have finished copyediting now, all issues have been resolved, except for the Kentucky Colonel thing. Is there a source that says he was one, or what? I see the article used to be in the category of them. Clarification would be helpful. jp×g 22:42, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

User:JPxG No, he was NOT a Kentucky Colonel. He just had the "personality" of the Kentucky Colonel type. - per source The Lumberman's Legacy, page 31. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:06, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Woot. Passing! jp×g 03:10, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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