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A fact from Thirumangai Alvar appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 15 November 2008, and was viewed approximately 650 times (disclaimer) (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Thirumangai Alvar, considered one of the most learned Alvar saint-poets in Hinduism, was a robber before becoming a saint?

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Peacock terms

The article contains some peacock terms which need to be looked into. I'm listing all those which caught my attention.

He is considered one of the most learned Alvar and the most superior Alvar in the context of composition of verses

Pillai uses: "one of the most erudite, was decidedly superior to all other Alwars in the knack of composing verses".--Redtigerxyz ^Talk 14:03, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tiruvelukkutirukkai deals with the concept of surrender to God to attain freedom from suffering, the nature of God and the means of attaining Him

(I feel that the word "Him" appears to be highly emotonal, from a religious perspective)

Him is for God. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 14:03, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I can understand but the term "Him" appears a bit too philosophical here.-The Enforcer _{Office of the secret service} 14:08, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thirumangai shared a bitter hatred for other traditions, which he considered heretical

(Hatred and bitterness are one and the same. So why the need for using the word "bitter hatred")

reworded with ref

Thirumangai plundered many rival Shaivas (devotees of the Hindu god Shiva) and lived on the acquired wealth

(could be replaced)

rival includes rival sect. Vaishnavas and Shaivas are considered rival sects. al most the rival word can be dropped. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 14:03, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

-The Enforcer _{Office of the secret service} 13:27, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, I don't have any problems with the word "rival". But the word "many" appears to be a peacock term. I recommend that it be replaced.-The Enforcer _{Office of the secret service} 14:08, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

These are all extremely minor issues. I just felt that the usage of words like "many" weren't appropriate. Anyway, I shall remove the tag on the article since I've brought it to your notice and the purpose has been fulfilled.-The Enforcer _{Office of the secret service} 14:11, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 14:16, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Protect the page

@SpacemanSpiff: Pleae protect this page sir.Because Thirumangai alvar is a king of Mutharaiyar dynastry and Alvar.But Nittawinoda add the irrelevet sub title.Add the another Caste title so please protect the page and block the user Nittawinoda.thank you by--Jkalaiarasan86 (talk) 12:39, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@SpacemanSpiff:, user Jkalaiarasan86 has been pushing his opinion on many a page. When asked to provide references he fails to do so and simply resorts to reverting the articles to his preferred version. Thirumangai Alvar belongs to Kallar caste. Sources - [1], [2]. Therefore request you to revert the article to a neutral version as per WP:NEUTRAL. Nittawinoda (talk) 17:47, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@SpacemanSpiff: == Thirumangai alvar ==

Thirumangai alvar is Kallar right.But not a Kallar caste. cannot confuse Kallar(Thief) and Kallar caste.He was stolen by his intention to serve his devotees.ok but thirumangai alvar Dynastry is Mutharaiyar --Jkalaiarasan86 (talk) 03:25, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Source for "Kallar caste" [3]. So maintain neutral version. Nittawinoda (talk) 03:37, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@SpacemanSpiff: [4] refer page Jkalaiarasan86 (talk) 04:26, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]