Talk:Third Treaty of San Ildefonso

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The article suggests that Godoy disapproved of the territorial exchange, but the quote seems to approve of it. Is this a contradiction? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aavichabi (talk • contribs) 19:59, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Now corrected.

Robinvp11 (talk) 13:14, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cited pages for the Godoy quote may be incorrect

I tried to look up the Godoy quote ("(Louisiana) not yielding much to our treasury, nor to our trade, and generating sizeable expenses in money and soldiers, ...the return...can be deemed as a gain, instead of a sacrifice...(Tuscany), cultivation perfect, industry flourishing, trade expanded...a million and a half inhabitants; state revenues of about three million pesos fuertes... The weakness of this argument is France was effectively returning territory to those it had taken it from in the first place.") at pp. 47-59 of Volume 2 of Godoy's memoirs, but I could not find it on those pages. Either I missed it, or it's elsewhere in the work.Jeff in CA (talk) 07:40, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I know I came across it somewhere - but I can't for the life of me figure out where; I did a bunch of these at the same time, so I know I read it but can't find it. I've corrected it thanks :) Robinvp11 (talk) 18:07, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also re the Louisiana thing; the delegates in Paris negotiating the 1800 Convention got wind of the Franco-Spanish talks and Humphries (Ambassador in Spain) was told to see if he could get in first, while it was also made part of Pinckney's instructions before he left in June 1801 - by which time the Treaty of Aranjuez had been published, so tried to get the Floridas instead. Again, I'd have to go back and find the reference - it was a couple of years ago. Robinvp11 (talk) 19:05, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Removing flag icons

User:GENQUEST I will admit to getting irritated by people blandly referencing Wikipedia 'guidelines' without explaining how it helps the article. I've read the guidelines before; they are (as ever) capable of interpretation and say 'Its a guideline.'

How can be distracting to know which negotiator worked for which country? I asked politely for an explanation and I think its reasonable to expect an answer. Robinvp11 (talk) 18:27, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]