Talk:Third Balochistan conflict
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Attacks by some faujeets
[edit]Some extreme radical people most likely from pakistan also army bootlickers are tryna grief the wiki page continously , I request some action against @User:VirtualVagabond and ask staff assistance. @User:RegentsPark can you get some wiki staff here GamerHashaam (talk) 21:27, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Don’t know why you’re being so aggressive, you changed the result of the conflict without any talk page interaction. You have a track record of disruption, as also seen on the 2024 Azad Kashmir demonstrations. If you disagree, use the talk page, and we can talk in a civilised manner, instead of insulting me. VirtualVagabond (talk) 21:53, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- I have written in the article history of revisions that I changed it because The demands of the baluch were accepted by Yahya Khan and a ceasefire was signed aswell general amnesty to the insurgents was done which was a de-facto peace treaty. Also you have removed entire section to change the narrative into story told by the military in pakistan which is that "feudals" cause all troubles to baloch even though the largest baloch nationalist organization currently is BSO which is led by Allah Nazar Baloch who is not tribal chief nor wadera and is a middle class baloch doctor with MBBS degree. GamerHashaam (talk) 21:59, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
On the claim of it being a “Baluch victory”
[edit]@GamerHashaam Please talk to me here and bring forth proof that it was a Baluch victory (BLA victory is more suitable). We can then move on from there. VirtualVagabond (talk) 22:17, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Its not BLA victory as BLA didn't exist back then and Its a Baluch victory since even moderate balochs such as mengals were involed in this and It was won because there demands such as restoration of the provincial status of Balochistan was accepted and one unit was abolished not to mention they recieved a general amnesty which cleared them of any wrong doing. The rebel leaders were even allowed to keep there arms and contest elections. GamerHashaam (talk) 22:20, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- It doesn’t really seem a Pakistani victory now that you say it, but not a Baluchi victory. It seems there just to be a ceasefire, where Balochi fighters did not gain independence but given amnesty. I’ll change it to that, as a compromise. VirtualVagabond (talk) 22:24, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- I have told you that the intial demands nor the demand in the entire conflict was Independence rather It was to gain autonomy which was granted and restoration of the province even in interviews of personalities such as akbar bugti , ataullah mengal and countless others they constantly mention the one unit as the cause of this conflict. GamerHashaam (talk) 22:25, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, we can’t just take your word for it. You need to cite sources, pal. Stop this edit war, the article’s result was originally ceasefire, which I’ve now recognised. VirtualVagabond (talk) 22:27, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- The Sources used as reference in the article and other cited all say that the one unit scheme was the prime reason for the conflict followed by the sui gas revenue or money distribution which is authored later on the 2006 insurgency GamerHashaam (talk) 22:34, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, we can’t just take your word for it. You need to cite sources, pal. Stop this edit war, the article’s result was originally ceasefire, which I’ve now recognised. VirtualVagabond (talk) 22:27, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- My apologies, it seems that the article’s result was once originally ceasefire, before being being put as a Pakistani victory. It doesn’t seem to be a Baluchi victory as well though. It was a ceasfire. VirtualVagabond (talk) 22:26, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- It would been a ceasefire If for example a stalemate had been reached in which west pakistan as one unit would be kept but this didn't occur nor were any of the rebel leaders halted from contesting elections or arrested or charged with crimes for the conflict and a ceasefire is most likely for it since the conflict restarted in 1973 so authors and readers most likely put it as a ceasefire due to this. GamerHashaam (talk) 22:30, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Also the captured or arrested baluch activists and insurgents were released without any charges aswell. GamerHashaam (talk) 22:32, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- It would been a ceasefire If for example a stalemate had been reached in which west pakistan as one unit would be kept but this didn't occur nor were any of the rebel leaders halted from contesting elections or arrested or charged with crimes for the conflict and a ceasefire is most likely for it since the conflict restarted in 1973 so authors and readers most likely put it as a ceasefire due to this. GamerHashaam (talk) 22:30, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- I have told you that the intial demands nor the demand in the entire conflict was Independence rather It was to gain autonomy which was granted and restoration of the province even in interviews of personalities such as akbar bugti , ataullah mengal and countless others they constantly mention the one unit as the cause of this conflict. GamerHashaam (talk) 22:25, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- It doesn’t really seem a Pakistani victory now that you say it, but not a Baluchi victory. It seems there just to be a ceasefire, where Balochi fighters did not gain independence but given amnesty. I’ll change it to that, as a compromise. VirtualVagabond (talk) 22:24, 21 May 2024 (UTC)