Talk:Theophilus Beebe

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Please remove the Notability tag. It is notable that Captain Theophilus Beebe was the first pilot to receive his branch pilot's license under the New Jersey Pilots' Commission on February 25, 1837. It is important we keep this history in our encyclopedia so others can read about it. Included are primary and secondary citations that support this claim.^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]

References

^ "Capt. Beebe, Pioneer Pilot, Dead At 92". The Daily Record. Long Branch, New Jersey. 19 Sep 1917. p. 1. Retrieved 2021-05-16.
^ "Kirkbride's New Jersey Business Directory, General Register and Advertising Medium". 1850. Retrieved 2021-05-15.
^ Allen, Edward L. (1922). Pilot Lore; From Sail to Steam, and Historical Sketches of the Various Interests Identified With the Development of the World's Greatest Port. The United New York and New Jersey Sandy Hook Pilots Benevolent Associations.
^ Cunliffe, Tom (2001). Pilots, The World Of Pilotage Under Sail and Oar. Brooklin, Maine: Wooden Boat Publications. p. 93. ISBN 9780937822692.

Greg Henderson (talk) 15:56, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Notability is still under review by editors at Template talk:List of Sea Captains and Pilots. I noted there that this was a claim to notability that the article makes (as opposed to many of the article which don't even attempt to provide such claims), but there is not yet consensus that being the first to get such a licence in and of itself meets any WP:N criteria. Melcous (talk) 22:15, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Death/birth

When I Google, there are Theophilus Beebe in Sr, Jr, II, III, IV and such. Is there a reliable source that directly connects the pictured subject, as well as the birth/death date to the Theophilus Beebe that is of the subject in this article? It can not involve researching multiple PRIMARY sources by Henderson to draw the conclusion. Graywalls (talk) 07:28, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The article, Captain Theophilus Beebe III is about an American Sandy Hook Pilot (1800-1866). His father was Theophilus D. Beebe II (1753-1837) and his grandfather was Theophilus Beebe I (1730-1793). Secondary sources include Pilot Lore, John A. Heffernan's First Pilots, Fishermen, and Pilots, The World Of Pilotage. Greg Henderson (talk) 15:44, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Capt. Beebe, Pioneer Pilot, Dead At 92". The Daily Record. Long Branch, New Jersey. 19 Sep 1917. p. 1. Retrieved 2021-05-16.

[2] "Kirkbride's New Jersey Business Directory, General Register and Advertising Medium". 1850. Retrieved 2021-05-15.

[Lore-3] Allen, Edward L. (1922). Pilot Lore; From Sail to Steam, and Historical Sketches of the Various Interests Identified With the Development of the World's Greatest Port. The United New York and New Jersey Sandy Hook Pilots Benevolent Associations.

[Pilots-4] Cunliffe, Tom (2001). Pilots, The World Of Pilotage Under Sail and Oar. Brooklin, Maine: Wooden Boat Publications. p. 93. ISBN 9780937822692.

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