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Requested move

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The Yiddish Policemen's Union: A Novel → The Yiddish Policemen's Union – "A Novel" is not part of the title; it is an explanatory tag appended to many novel titles. Placing "A Novel" on the title page of novels is a publishing convention, so the phrase often appears as part of the title in library and bookseller catalogues. But in ordinary usage "A Novel" is not considered part of the title. --ShelfSkewed Talk 22:09, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Examples of the title appearing in reputable sources without "A Novel" included as part of the title:

--ShelfSkewed Talk 04:26, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Moved --Stemonitis 07:25, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's a lot of effort put into something that seems really inconsequential to me! Suppose a blockbuster movie comes out with the same title, do we revisit this issue and get mired in a sea of internet links? Cuvtixo 16:23, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, the correct title is The Yiddish Policeman's Union, not The Yiddish Policeman's Union: A Novel, and when I requested what I thought should have been a noncontroversial move Stemonitis more or less challenged me to prove that the former was in fact the title. So I did. If there is an identically titled film version, the WP article title will be The Yiddish Policeman's Union (film). No sea of links. --ShelfSkewed Talk 18:37, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Historical basis

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If anyone wants to write an article on the King-Havenner Bill that inspired the novel, there's an excellent series of four articles from the Anchorage Daily News published in 1999.--Pharos 00:16, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not Reservation: Temporary nature of "Sitka settlement"

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I have not finished the book yet, but it seems highly important to the plot that the "reservation" is a temporary, 60-year "lease," that is about to expire. This is referenced often in the book as the "Reversion." I am going to take out the word "reservation" which is linked to dictionary-like entry in the Wikipedia. I think "refugee settlement" is better, but if someone has a better term... Cuvtixo 16:01, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Plot

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Shouldn't this article have something about the plot of the story, not just the background? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.87.64.140 (talk) 00:30, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The plot summary is full of mistakes (I've just read the book). Perhaps somebody who is good at such things could do a better one?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by GRoe (talk • contribs) 09:12, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]


More Comments on "Plot summary"

"Landsman lies, saying that he will, and is released." Shouldn't it be "Landsman says he will, and is released."

"... suddenly realizes its similarity to a chessboard that Hertz Shemetz had set up in his house ..." I did not catch that this point was explicitly expressed.


"... Mendel was in a heroin induced stupor ..."

I would reorder the end of this section to:

"Bina and Landsman decide to date again and are planning for their future in America. The book ends with Landsman contacting a friendly American newspaperman with the story, undoing his promise to say nothing of the conspiracy." Though I am not sure about the "future in America" part. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.43.16 (talk) 10:46, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the chess game/puzzle, on p4 it says "On the bedside table Lasker kept a chessboard. It looked like he had a game going, a messy-looking middle game ..." On p304 Landsman sees Uncle Hertz's chessboard set up and asks if he is playing a correspondence game. Hertz replies it is not a game, he is just "fooling around". Not until p400 does Landsman realise "it wasn't a chess game ... it was a problem."

So - I am just going to reverse the order in the plot summary from problem/game to game/problem. SpoolWhippets (talk) 10:52, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Description of POD speculation and original research?

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I would say the description of how the world is supposed to have changed is (a) speculative and (b) 'original research'

Hpengwyn (talk) 10:46, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it is indeed "speculative", but it is a description of the author's speculation: the alternate history that establishes the novel's fictional world.--ShelfSkewed Talk 11:32, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Where does he say this? If it were a better book I would go through and find all the evidence for the alternate world being at all coherent, but I will settle for page numbers from someone else :-) Hpengwyn (talk) 20:06, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have rewritten the passage, removing everything that is not specifically stated in the book.JTrundle (talk) 18:51, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Film Adaptation

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Producer Scott Rudin can not have purchased film rights 5 years (2002) before the book itself appeared, in 2007. [Nikos Al]

It is entirely possible, and actually common, to purchase the film rights to a to-be-published book. When a popular and successful author (Chabon's The Pittsburgh Mysteries was already a bestseller) announces his or her intention to write a new story, it makes perfect sense for a studio to bet on the property's future popularity and attempt to purchase it before "bestseller" status drives up the competition (and thus the price) for those rights. 69.174.87.20 (talk) 15:22, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Except neither of the two articles cited even mentions this yet to be published book. Good catch Nikos.

'Yiddish expression "from here to Hotzenplotz"'

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could someone add the Yiddish for this Yiddish expression?--Richardson mcphillips (talk) 12:35, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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