Talk:The Wiggles/Archive 1

Photo reversed

Why? (See the NASA source). Bill 16:24, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I know this is too late to matter, but I think its because as it originally was, The Wiggles would have been facing "away" from the article - that would give a feeling of distancing them from the printed text and thereby alienating the reader. Gohst 12:11, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I disagree with touching up pictures for visual effect. Wikipedia is supposed to be an encyclopedia, a work of scholarship and a faithful record of the world we live in. Reversing pictures is on a par with the tabloid press using photoshop to make people thinner or removing pimples. If visual effect is that big a concern lay the article out with the picture on the left of the page. John Dalton 01:16, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree with John. This is an enclyopedia. it is to provide information, thats really all. If somone is feeling "alienating", then its probobly because he/she dosnt really want to read the article or what not Kuzmaster 04:20, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree as well, partcularly since it makes the Wiggles logo appear on the wrong side of their shirt. I changed the article to point to the "un-reversed" photo. Vandelay 21:56, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Merge from Dorothy the Dinosaur

I think the main article still has room for that content. Nabla 15:29, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

This discussion should probably also consider merging Wags the Dog, Henry the Octopus, and Captain Feathersword. If you merge or keep Dorothy, the same should be done with the other pages. Ruhrfisch 18:36, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

• I'm going to merge the four articles in now. Saberwyn 10:11, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Relationship with Bob Dole

Bob Dole called the Wiggles a "disgrace to humanity". This makes them the second band in history to be called this. Cannibal Corpse, a children's folk band, was also called that. During the 90's, the members of both bands held killing parties, one time leaving twenty dead.

What??? Cannibal Corpse is NOT a children's folk band!!! Killing partys??? That can't be true!!!

Do you have sources to cite for this? -- Malber (talk • contribs) 13:04, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

This is vandalism someone please delete Samualm (talk) 08:17, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Origins and History

There is a gap in the history section. When did the Wiggles pare down from five members to four? Where is the section on their deal with The Disney Channel? --malber 13:44, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Correction: it's mentioned in the history section. I think these sections need to be looked into. Parts from the Origins section need to be merged into the History section. Some material in Origins should be put in a separate Criticism section. The opening paragraph of the History section is redundant. Decisions need to be made on where the surgery should be performed. --malber 14:21, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

I reorganized the "History" section into a more chronological order, removing redundant information. Vandelay 19:01, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Who Was the fifth Wiggle?? - Thomas you're so not cool. Wiggles are amazing. stop being a jerk! and a meany!

Anthony used to wear a green shirt (a polo-styled one even). My daughter has "Dance Party," and I think the footage is pre-1997. Also, how about the opera-singing character, Professor Singalottasonga, and maybe mention of Captain Feathersword's crew and the Wiggles Dancers? Ron

More detail on the television series'

I have quite a bit of information on the four different TV shows that The Wiggles put out. Is there any interest in merging some of that information into this page?

http://members.cox.net/otter1home/wiggles/index.html

--Song Lists, Credits, Episode Synopsys, etc.

A Good candidate for the External Links section, if nothing else. Rocksong 12:03, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Rating table

I have changed the rating of australia in the TV ratings table from P to G as I assumed that the table was for TV ratings (general exibition, adults only...) if this is not correct, please change it back to P.

Actually, there is no rating "P" in Australia. A rating of "G" (General) means it's suitable for a general audience, the next level up of ratings is "PG" (Parental Guidance) that means it's suitable for people under 15 if they have a parent to supervise. Gohst 01:26, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Middle names

Their middle names are "Wiggle?" I think that deserves a citation. --Brad E. Williams 12:36, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

That's what it says on their web site [1]. Greg Page's real middle name is John [2]. I haven't been able to find solid information on the others. --Faustus37 14:31, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

That's a joke. The Miscellaneous section was largely lifted from that FAQ page. I'm removing the middle name section. --JeremyStein 17:20, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Height

i think the heights are messed up:

Greg: 194cm (6 feet 3 inches) Murray: 192cm (6 feet 2 inches) Anthony: 182cm (5 feet 9 inches) Jeff: 177cm (5 feet 8 inches)

for instance anthony is listed as 182cm : 5'9" but 182cm isn't 5'9" its closer to 5.9 feet which is something totally different. does any one know the real heights?

cheers mathew 07:59, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

The Fifth Wiggle

Found out who it is

link for more info the fifth wiggle

I'll add some info onto wiggles page

Tom the Boffin 03:23, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Greg ill?

Apparently Greg Page is not touring the USA at the moment with the group - citing a mysterious illness that appears varyingly across the web as testicular cancer, a hernia, and severe headaches - I won't update the main article with speculation unless anyone knows differently??

Greg Page is getting replaced by Sam. Because when Greg is on stage, he falls right on stage. So instead of "Greg Wiggle" there will be a "Sam Wiggle". Many doctors went to see him. He has a kind of disease.

Vandalism?

There are some recent changes to the character sections, such as the only time Dorothy was mean was when Wags bit her leg, as well as changes to the character's birthday. Is this true, or has this article been vandalised?--Tiberius47 04:57, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes it was vandalism. "poopypants" was a giveaway. A good rule of thumb is: If you see something that looks suss, it probably is, so be bold and remove it! Though in this case, I've done it. Rocksong 06:25, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Orthostatic Intolerance Information

There is a lot of information on O.I. if you know where to look and there are a few really good doctor's in the US that might be able to help Greg.

The NDRF - National Dysautonomia Research Foundation http://www.ndrf.org/

Dinet - http://www.potsplace.com/

info - http://home.att.net/~potsweb/POTS.html

The Postural Tachycardia Syndrome (POTS): Pathophysiology, Diagnosis & Management. Indian Pacing Electrophysiol J. 2006 Apr 1;6(2):84-99.

Neurocardiogenic syncope and related disorders of orthostatic intolerance. Circulation. 2005 Jun 7;111(22):2997-3006. Review.

Dysautonomias: clinical disorders of the autonomic nervous system. Ann Intern Med. 2002 Nov 5;137(9):753-63. Review.

Orthostatic intolerance and tachycardia associated with norepinephrine-transporter deficiency. N Engl J Med. 2000 Feb 24;342(8):541-9.

Clinical disorders of the autonomic nervous system associated with orthostatic intolerance: an overview of classification, clinical evaluation, and management. Pacing Clin Electrophysiol. 1999 May;22(5):798-810. Review

Neurocardiogenic syncope and related disorders of orthostatic intolerance. Circulation. 2005 Jun 7;111(22):2997-3006. Review.

Guidelines on management (diagnosis and treatment) of syncope--update 2004. Europace. 2004 Nov;6(6):467-537

Dysautonomias: clinical disorders of the autonomic nervous system. Ann Intern Med. 2002 Nov 5;137(9):753-63. Review.

Clinical disorders of the autonomic nervous system associated with orthostatic intolerance: an overview of classification, clinical evaluation, and management. Pacing Clin Electrophysiol. 1999 May;22(5):798-810. Review —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hopefuldestiny (talk • contribs) 14:42, 5 December 2006 (UTC).

American?

Why is this article included in the American TV shows categories? Rosemary Amey 04:02, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Since no one explained this, I am removing it from the American TV shows categories. Rosemary Amey 00:41, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Never mind, I see someone else has already done it. Rosemary Amey 00:44, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

The show is televised on the Disney Channel in America so I think that technically makes it an American TV show. But it doesn't matterAzn Clayjar 19:21, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Depends on how you define it. If it is defined as any show that is broadcast in a country then yes, and the category becomes meaningless. If it is defined, and this is my understanding, as a show produced and manufactured FOR a specific country, then no it isn't. This is an Australian show. Just because a show is shown in a specific country does not make that show a TV show of that country. We have a lot of shows on TV here in the US, that are British in origin... the original Whose Line is It or Who Wants to be a Millionaire are both British TV shows that have a following here in the US. Likewise, there are several US shows that have (or had) large followings outside the US JAG and Baywatch come to mind.Balloonman 18:47, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Marilyn Manson

Since when have they performed with Marilyn Manson? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.191.144.212 (talk) 11:22, 13 January 2007 (UTC).

Axl Rose as the Chef??

I don't know what the actual information should be but I know last time I looked at this article it didn't say the Chef had been played by Axl Rose, I am sure I would have remembered that! I also remember there was information about someone else who had played the Chef after John Field possibly another member of the Field family?

--JoWalton 10:25, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

It was Paul Hester formally of Crowded House 203.206.43.249 09:37, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

I ♥ the wiggles

hey this is a letter from me i ♥ u wiggles hopefuly u can read this or any other wiggles fas out there my fave is greg will miss u (cry) so u guys have a wiglly party!!!!!!!!

from wigles fan —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 220.239.208.251 (talk) 08:31, 6 March 2007 (UTC).

discography/list of songs

This article really should have a definitive list of songs, it's difficult to find a collated list. Discography and DVD covers might also be good. Peter 00:59, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Picture Update

I think that a new picture should be put in place, this time featuring Sam Moran, as Greg Page is no longer in the group.

I agree, so I went ahead and made the change. Figureskatingfan 20:23, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

The peer review I requested made the following suggestion:

If there is not a free use image in the top right corner of the article, please try to find and include one.

As a result, I reinserted the oringinal image, with Greg Page in it, even though he's no longer a part of the group. It's the only free use image I could find. Hopefully, it won't endanger possible FA status. So if anyone out there can solve this problem, please do so. Thanks. --Figureskatingfan 02:44, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Redirect for the minor characters

Is there a way for the links of the minor characters like Henry the Octupus that would send the viewer to the minor character's section of the page instead of at the beginning of the Wiggles article? Azn Clayjar 20:57, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, there is. You have to create a new page for each character, and then redirect. It may take awhile, but I would like to work on that.Figureskatingfan 05:09, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it is necessary to create individual pages for each character as they are minor and there is isn't much to say about each one. What I meant was to have an anchor point on the Wiggles page to the minor character section when you search for a character. It's not that important. Azn Clayjar 14:28, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I think you're right about creating individual pages, which is why I never bothered to do it. I'm not certain that what you're proposing is possible; it's definately something to research. I may do it, if time permits. I suppose the real question is if it's even worth it, or if other articles do it. Hmm.... --Figureskatingfan 15:46, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Episode guide

I have created an episode guide, and linked it from the main page. (See Section 8.) Also see the discussion page there; it explains what I've done and how I'd like to see it improved. If anyone wants to help out (esp. Aussie fans), that'd be great.Figureskatingfan 05:09, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Two new articles

For those who are interested: Phillip Wilcher--- the "Fifth Wiggle" Wiggles' franchises‎--- the franchising of the Wiggle motif in Taiwan/South AmericaBalloonman 05:55, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

List of guest stars with The Wiggles

I've started a new page "List of guest stars with The Wiggles." Right now the page is in its infancy, any help to increase it will be apprecaited. ThanksBalloonman 20:21, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

"Re-edit"

I revamped other Wiggles pages, so now I'm tackling this one. One of my goals is to clean up the sources and delete anything that can't be supported. (For example, there's nothing out there that I could find supporting the previous assertion that "Do the Monkey" was an old Cockroaches song.)

Here's one resource listing "Do The Monkey" as a Cockroaches song: http://www.7517raremusiccds.com/servlet/the-512/best-cockroaches-cd,-cockroaches/Detail

I've also heard a sample of this song on iTunes, and it is the same song, different lyrics (original research, I know, but hopefully the link above will suffice)

Vandelay 20:46, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, this suffices, I believe. So I'll go ahead and add it. Thanks for the assistance! Figureskatingfan 17:49, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

A huge problem with this article, IMO, is something that plagues a lot of WP articles--a lack of a feeling of continuity. Of course, that's due to the fact that lots of people has written it, so I'm trying to improve the prose and tighten it up some and get rid of the redundancy. The chronological order of the history section seems to be a little off as well. Figureskatingfan 20:09, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I deleted the Latest activity section in History and folded the content into the National, and then international success section. I figured that doing that made the prose flow better. I also fixed some of the links having to do with the theme parks. Figureskatingfan 01:47, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

In the Characters section, I deleted the reference to "the Wiggles death curse" because I couldn't find a source for it. If anyone can find it, please add it back in--it is interesting. Figureskatingfan 05:32, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

As my edit of 10/14 shows, I was able to find a source that partially verifies the above--or at least about Paul Hester, who played Paul the Cook and who also died (committed suicide, actually). Of course, this is due to the contribution of 69.205.55.217, who added the initial info about Hester. Sorry, nothing about "the death curse" yet. --Figureskatingfan 05:09, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

In the Wiggles in other media section, I deleted the references to the group's special appearances. This can be debated, but in other similar WP articles, this section is limited to references in other media alone. I suppose there could be another section about their appearances, but I can't see how that could ever be complete. I also recall a mention of The Wiggles in "ER" a few seasons back, but I wouldn't depend upon my memory enough to add it. Figureskatingfan 05:48, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

This re-edit is now completed. This is what was accomplished today:

• I changed the format of the videos section. I didn't check its accuracy.
• Discography: Using Amazon.com as a resource, I put the list in chronological order and added a few CDs. I can't verify its accuracy, either, since there's no discography on The Wiggles' homepage.
• Trivia: I deleted this section, as per the tag's suggestion, and removed the tag. I folded some items in the body of this article (for example, the origin of their finger-wagging move), I included some items in other articles (i.e., Anthony's breeding of fox terriers), and if it couldn't be verified, it was removed (the stuff about LeAnn Halloran).

I believe that this article has been tightened and its quality improved. Maybe it'll get a higher score now! Figureskatingfan 22:37, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism

Man, this article gets vandalized a lot! It happens so much (everyday!), it looks like there are some administrators who look out for it. I wonder, then, what can be done to prevent it. Are we at the point when we need to lock it? I think this is an important question to consider because it's certain that children visit this article. It reminds me of that creep who frequented a Wiggles concert just so that he could photograph the little girls! Figureskatingfan 18:26, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Le Wiggles

I just nominated Le Wiggles for Deletion as it is a non-notable franchise of The Wiggles. If you wish to participate in the debate, please feel free to join in at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Le WigglesBalloonman (talk) 07:12, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Characters section

As you can see, I have re-written the Characters section. I think it adds to the general improvement of this article.

In that spirit, I believe that the "Minor characters" section should be completely revamped. I propose removing the section and folding some of the information into the content of the article. For example, another paragraph can be written about The Wiggles' other characters and their portrayers, with a mention of the Wiggly dancers. In the next few days, I'll create such a paragraph. --Figureskatingfan (talk) 06:14, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

I've also changed the position of the images of the four characters discussed. It just didn't look right after the prose was re-written. If anyone's out there, please improve it if you feel it's necessary. --Figureskatingfan (talk) 20:06, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

The "Minor characters" section is now re-written. I changed it from a list to a prose format and deleted the unsourceable information. I believe that the previous version suffered from a serious lack of WP:NOTE, so it's now improved. (For example, there was no mention of the "Wiggly dancers.") At any rate, any feedback or improvement would be welcome. --Figureskatingfan 19:26, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Man, this section has given me headaches! As per the recommendations of FAC feedback, I experimented moving the images around. I'm not sure it's adequate. If someone can help out, that would be so helpful! Please! --Figureskatingfan (talk) 17:44, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Lead section

The lead section is way too short. Please expand it to three full paragraphs. — Cuyler91093 - Contributions 19:02, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

GAN

Comments:

• Please address the suggestion above.
• The Wiggles is an Australian band. This is very short for an intromost part.
• The prose above Early career section is quite long. Confine this to another subsection of History.
• The Wiggles 2007 Live @ the MCI Center - November 8, 2007 The sign is not encyclopedic
• first (self-titled) album remove the parenthesis --BritandBeyonce (talk) 07:37, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I think that I've addressed all the items listed above. I've expanded the lead section to the recommended three paragraphs. It seems that the lead was the most significant problem preventing this article from becoming GA-status, which is pretty good, I must say. --Figureskatingfan (talk) 23:39, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Photo reversed, again

Why is the NASA photo reversed? (You can see that the logos on their shirts are on the wrong side). I had corrected this about a year ago (see the top of this Talk page for background), but it's back again. Vandelay (talk) 06:17, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Vanelay, I'm probably responsible. I replaced the NASA photo with a more updated but non-free image, and when it was deleted, I reinserted the original. (See this talk page, Picture update section.) Perhaps I reinserted the wrong one, with the logos on the wrong side. If you could re-correct the problem, that would be so great! My apologies. Of course, the problem would be solved if someone had a free, up-to-date photo of all four guys together, one that included Sam Moran. --Figureskatingfan (talk) 20:13, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

GA nomination

Having read this article through and observed the work done to address the concerns raised above, I believe it passes all 6 criteria and has therefore been promoted.

The only thing I would warn of is the "cultural references" section - keep an eye on this and make sure it doesn't become pure trivia and violate WP:NOT#INFO. The list could probably be pruned down to about 5 or 6 the more significant ones if it really got out of hand. - Zeibura ^(Talk) 23:28, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

I've already thanked Zeibura on her talk page. This is so exciting! As the main contributor/editor, I'm pleased because it's the first article I've significantly contributed to that has successfully gone through the GAN process. As the guys would say, Woo Hoo! They so deserve a quality article on WP. Thanks to all who contributed. Next, FA status!

I know there's been some "controversy" over trivia sections on WP articles, but I kinda like 'em. I think, though, that they should be included ONLY if they can be verified, which is what I've tried to do here. If any item in the list gets in the way of FA status, though, they're outta here. So far, it hasn't been an issue and hasn't gotten out of hand, IMO. --Figureskatingfan (talk) 00:40, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Copyeditor's thoughts

Hi Figureskatingfan, I hopped right to it, as you can see. I made quite a few small changes to conform to MOS guidelines and to improve the prose flow in places. I have a couple of suggestions for further improvement. I think the finger-wagging move needs to be explained a bit more clearly. It's not obvious what the finger-wagging move means to bowlers and what that has to do with not touching children. In the "Success at home and abroad" section, a sentence ends with "have been in the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade at least twice." I would get rid of "at least" and either give the exact number or end the sentence with a terminal period after "Parade". A third and rather tedious group of things to fix are the unusual capital letters in the little words in the long lists of songs and CDs at the end of the article. The titles such as "It's A Wiggly Wiggly World" have capital letters that almost surely should be lower-cased. I'm guessing that the actual title is "It's a Wiggly Wiggly World". I see a bunch of other similar titles that probably need this sort of small, nit-picky fix. All in all, though, the article seems to me to be in good shape. Finetooth (talk) 06:01, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Responded on Finetooth's talk page. --Figureskatingfan (talk) 21:16, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Images

As per the FAC suggestions, I changed the captions on most of the images in this article, and as I state above, experimented with the placement of the images in the Characters section. I also switched the out-of-date NASA photo with the Big Red Car image, which is now in the infobox. I wish there was a better group photo, so if anyone can get one, please donate it to the cause. --Figureskatingfan (talk) 19:14, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

The Wiggles FAC Suggestions

• The Wiggles in The Big Red Car, during a concert in Washington, D.C., 2007. to The Wiggles riding in The Big Red Car during a 2007 concert in Washington, D.C..
• Remove the comma after Australia.
• The Wiggles is and The Wiggles were. What do you prefer? The Wiggles with a singular verb or plural verb? If you prefer the former, you need to address my comments below. If it’s the latter, ignore them.

According to this, the correct usuage is, "The Wiggles were." Right from the article: Proper nouns that are plural in form take a plural verb in both AmE and BrE; for example, The Beatles are a well-known band; The Giants are the champions. Fixed! --Figureskatingfan (talk) 20:00, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

• Combined what?

Go back and read the sentence; I think it's very clear.

• I think you need to link the monetary sign in $A50.
• Why are the certifications in capital letter? And, do you have to mention them all?

Struck certifications and made the line more general.

• Remove one of the group's founding members, it’s been stated above.
• Capitalize t in the Cockroaches.

Done, but when the text referred to " a Cockroach song," I didn't make the change. I mean, you don't say, "a The Beatles song," you say "a Beatles song."

• I think the t in Top 40 needs to be lowercased.

Incorrect. See Top 40.

• The t again in the Cockroaches.
• Produced a musical project.

Keeping it; as is, it's a compound noun used like, "engineering project." --Figureskatingfan (talk) 03:16, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

• Educational concepts.
• Remove out in to help out. They are just the same thing.
• The enclosed sentence in parenthesis is very, very awkward. If possible, remove that. Or reword if you want to add.

Reworded.

*The for example thing is again awkward. Rephrase please…

• Inspired the band’s new name.
• Consistency measures: song writing and songwriting.
• brought comparisons to Pete Best, the "fifth Beatle". This is not clear or maybe the way it was connected with the preceding thoughts.

Reworded again. --Figureskatingfan (talk) 05:01, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

• What they did? Be specific.

More rewording

• Stared or Starred?

Stared. Look at the sentence; they "stared" (i.e., looked) into the camera.

• the Cockroaches again.
• What ABC? The alphabet?

The Australian Broadcasting Network. The first reference was spelled out, with ABC in parenthesis, which is correct usage.

• For example again…
• What debut? Performance?

Yes. Deleted "public."

• What busking? I can’t find a word like that in the lexicon.

Busking is an actual word. The broken link must have happened in a previous copyedit.

• What compact disc? Their album? Be specific.
• They were their own Huh?

Roadies. Changed to "They served as their own roadies." Is that more clear?

• Is the double l in travelled an Australian writing?

Yes. I don't have an Aussie dictionary, so I couldn't find a specific example. However, Australian English spells it with a double l.

• Band or group?

Changed to "The Wiggles," for clarity.

• Use semi colon after Dorothy; not a comma.

Fixed.

• Remove media? Media is public.
• Each Wiggle developed a "schtick" based on actual behaviours of each member of the group to Each Wiggle developed a "schtick" based on their actual behaviours.

Fixed. --Figureskatingfan (talk) 11:01, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

• The apostrophe s needs removal, I think.

Perhaps it's because I'm sleep deprived, but I'm not sure what apostrophe you mean. I'll leave it for now.

• Again, the parenthetical thing. Awkward.

Are you referring to "As Moran said, 'Jeff really does fall asleep"? I moved it to follow Jeff's schtick, if that works.

• their characters…
• To do what?

Fixed awkwardness of that sentence/quote. --Figureskatingfan (talk) 20:41, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

• Why is there an apostrophe in album?
• The songs were…

Not sure what you mean, but clarified the concept anyway.

• Wiggles in Wiggles policy needs apostrophe, I think.

Wiggles in this sentence is an adjective, but I changed it to clarify, anyway.

• photgraphed to photographed
• The Wiggles has always…
• The Wiggles has visited…
• 90s needs apostrophe like ‘90s.

According to MOS (WP:SEASON), both are accurate, so I'm leavin' it.

• The parenthesis again.

Clarified again, restructured.

• Barney needs italicization.
• move the hyphen in fifth-highest to highest grossing as in fifth highest-grossing.
• Add apostrophe in 90s.

No, see above. ;)

• So successful is so POVic. =)

Clarified again--I think.

• Would occur…
• I strongly believe that the word strong in their strong connection is POV.

Clarified again, put burden of POV on reference cited. --Figureskatingfan (talk) 23:41, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

• Again, The Wiggles have; change to has…and has been.
• The Wiggles was awarded…
• Again, the capitalization of gold and platinum.
• Very inconsistent; song writing and songwriting.

Song writing is the Aussie usage. Fixed.

• Like this one; USA and US. =)
• Link Taiwan, Latin American, Mandarin and Spanish.
• and by the end of the year had made plans… Something is wrong…

Changed to ...by the end of the year planned to

• Remove for example.

Done, plus fixed tenses--ya missed that, haha! ;)

• Greg Page leaves the group is not a nice title.

Changed to "Greg Page's retirement".

• What is double hernia? Any link?

Linked hernia.

• The Wiggles; not the Wiggles.
• Put quotation marks for smooth to avoid POV.
• Link ballet and opera.

Done, plus roses.

• Remove the comma after 1997…
• Change to described and insisted.
• By The Wiggles founding…
• At first,
• The Wiggles uses two…

Changed to "used". --Figureskatingfan (talk) 03:37, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

• The references are not consistent. For the “date” field, confine it in a parenthesis. The {{Cite web}} automatically produces parenthesis but for others, you need to put, especially the {{Cite news}} template. =)

Done, now consistent.

Thats all. Please feel free to object. --Efe (talk) 08:39, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

And it's finished; I've gone through every last item! Whew! That's all, eh? ;) At any rate, thanks for your input; it's much appreciated. --Figureskatingfan (talk) 03:51, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Always welcome. Sorry for the GA time that I posted a very hanging comments. I have no time to review it fully. But it passed, anyway. Cheers! And now your on your way to FA. =) --Efe (talk) 06:56, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

List of actors

I really don't like the list of actors for Wags/Dorothy, but I'm not sure of what to do with them.Balloonman (talk) 07:56, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

B, I'm not sure I know what you mean. I mean, what did the actors ever do to you? ;) Explain, please. --Figureskatingfan (talk) 00:48, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

The problem that I have right now is Wags has also been played by Edward Rooke,[33] Andrew McCourt,[34] Kristy Talbot,[35] and Paul Paddick.[11]. IMHO, the only actors/actresses that should be listed in the main article would be the current performer and possibly somebody who is notable enough to warrant an article on their own merit. Otherwise, I'd make footnotes the of paste actors/actresses.Balloonman (talk) 05:49, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I believe that I have fixed this problem, putting the names in footnotes as you suggest. Does it satisfy you, B? --Figureskatingfan (talk) 18:38, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Works for me...Balloonman (talk) 09:26, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

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