Talk:The Used/Archive 1

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Why is there nothing on the page?

I have just looked at a page where all there is is the band members and the usual stuff, no history, plans, or anything there used to be? whats the deal? (86.159.136.163 17:23, 14 November 2007 (UTC))

I wouldn't worry about that now. I recently restored the deleted information. But it could still use some expanding, especially on the feud with My Chemical Romance. --Pwnage8 (talk) 19:05, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Scenecore

I propose that a new genre be created called scenecore to accommodate all of these bands that are so commonly mislabeled as screamo and emo when in fact they have no resemblance to REAL screamo and emo bands.

So...all of this arguing? Solved. From now on they're scenecore.

Anybody want to help me make a wiki page for "scenecore"?

No Scenecore

Wikipedia isn't for inventing genres. The Used are screamo/emo. Go cry about it. monokrome 08:12, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

scenecore

lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.1.73.236 (talk) 17:26, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

This is ridiculous

--209.66.192.143 22:05, 29 March 2007 (UTC)--209.66.192.143 22:05, 29 March 2007 (UTC)--209.66.192.143 22:05, 29 March 2007 (UTC)--209.66.192.143 22:05, 29 March 2007 (UTC)THE UsEd dosen't have a definite music genre, Bert is all ways having mood swings and never has answer for what kind of genre THE UsEd really is. Hes explains that hes always changing between genres. I got this info from an interveiw with took place during The Taste of Choas tour ,07.

If we are such losers because we quote waist our time on this site what are you doing spending your precious time tell us losers how lame we are you have the problems dude. signed dimity

People keep insisting on putting up incorrect genre descriptions for them. When you delete them, you're called out for "vandalising". What's more detrimental to this page, putting up incorrect information, or taking it down.

They're not emo.

They're not screamo.

This is fact. Information has been provided as to why. People who classify them as emo or screamo have never listened to emo or screamo and don't know what they're talking about. These are not the people who should be taking part in editing this page.

Yet people who want to provide people with accurate information are villainized. What's the point of these discussion pages if no one gets heard.

Can we just take down the emo/screamo genre description and have this over with? You're wrong. Get over it.

they suck

Screamo as a genre was different in the early 90's from the screamo of today (which sounds much more like the emo from early 90's).

But the idea of putting them in with blink-182, Sum 41, Good Charlotte, Simple Plan, and Fall Out Boy, in the pop-punk category? This is isn't even close. Compare the bouncy/poppy songs of blink 182 in comparason to Choke Me by The Used.

To say "Bad Religion and Rancid aren't Punk. Listen to The Sex Pistols and The Damned." is a strange arguement. Comparing early to modern doesn't make much sense because music changes over time.

And yes, I have listened to Emo/Screamo/Emo Violence/Extremo/Emocore/Hardcore/Post Hardcore/Punk Rock/Post Punk/Metalcore and what have you. Dark jedi requiem 21:46, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

How come every emo band on wikipedia is not labeled as such? - ZEROpumpkins 07:42, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

the used is acool band and eny one that thinks there emo you suck the used

but they are emo! there's nothing bad with being emo. most people who say thye aren't are fans who think that it makes their music taste look bad. 76.182.87.230 13:39, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

ARE SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THE USED GAY? PLEASE TELL ME IF YOU KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.84.238.54 (talk) 00:55, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

There's nothing bad about being an emo band. I'm a used fan, and I call them emo. To simply say they're not because they don't sound like *insert random early 90's emo band here* is stupid, genres change. Modern metal bands sound nothing like Black Sabbath. They're either Emo, or need a new title to reflect the changes. To simply title them "Rock" or "Alternative" is taking the easy road of not coming up with something more descriptive. TheEmpiricalGuy 13:32, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Something To Burn?

Who added this info on the front page? The only reference to "Something To Burn" I've found was this apparently compilation album or whatever it is. Where's the info about the band having been called "Something To Burn" at the top of the article comes from? Either provide references, or I'd have to trim it. Iceness 21:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

that was what they were called for a short time.

"Something To Burn" was a tentative name for their first album, but they changed the name to just The Used. You will notice that all those songs are from their first album, some of which, are titled after prominent lyrics in the respective songs. --Pwnage8 (talk) 19:11, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Wiki Project On Emo Music

I've started a project similar to those already running on the topics of "Heavy Metal" and "Punk" music, if we'd bring it on the same level of the just mentioned projects we could make any band of the controversial genre (ie this one, and any related) a part of the project. Seems like just wiki articles on emo don't come across as much helpful. Here's the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Emo

In my opinion, it would be more fair both for those who edit The Used article on wiki Bands space and those who read it if the discussion on the whole genre would be carried out remotely. So far this discussion page looks more like a free forum. If you're willing to contribute, please read the suggestions I've layed out in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Emo/To_Do section of the project.

iceness (talk · contribs)

11 September, 2006

Genre Confusion

The Used is not emo or screamo or hardcore or post-hardcore or punk or any derivative therein. Do not call them such. If you are confused on these genres, go to their entries.

Actually, according to their official MySpace page, they list themselves as Screamo/Hardcore.

in what way are they not emotionally driven? what genre would you put them in?

Last.fm defines The Used as emo/screamo/punk, so the article should stay as it is.--Vanguard 18:39, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Emo does not mean "Emotionaly Charged". All Music is emotionaly charged, emo is a term given to hardcore punk bands who played in minors and had lyrics that were more emotive then traditional hardcore.

Um...question. What exactly is emo? Everyone has a different perception and many people where I live are called emo. What does it mean? TearAwayTheFunerealDress 16:24, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

The Used isnt emo, theyre as emo as bands like good charlotte are punk. Reiver 02:48, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

No more fan kiddies remarks please.

They are emo

Just because the "emo kids" love The Used, doesn't make them "emo". Same with My Chem and Panic! - Valkyrie Missile

I'd say they are a sort of screamo pop-punk. maybe?

Musie Genre

I didn't understand the first comment on this subject, so I'm asking as well. Under what genre do The Used go?

No clue whatsoever. I guess it is whatever you wish them to be. TearAwayTheFunerealDress 15:18, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Umm...is The Used punk? I don't quite know if they're hardcore either, they sound like pure emo really and any of the emo subgenres.--4.252.66.73 02:48, 25 November 2005 (UTC)Insomniak

THE UsEd dosen't have a definite music genre, Bert is all ways having mood swings and never has answer for what kind of genre THE UsEd really is. Hes explains that hes always changing between genres. I got this info from an interveiw with took place during The Taste of Choas tour ,07.

Yea they do. They don't sound hardcore (unless they scream....which still doesn't sound hardcore)...they are NOT punk! They sound emo to me. TearAwayTheFunerealDress 16:24, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

The Used are a mainstream rock band, nothing more, nothing less. Like someone said at the top of this page, read the wikipedia articles of the genres you're discussing! That's what they're here for! Alexforcefive 20:36, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

• Actually, I have to contemplate on that, The Used don't ring a bell when the word mainstream is mentioned,but they're definitely not underground though; isn't there something between the two? Apparently not in this case, but pop-rock is an awful vague and inaccurate term for the description. They are emo, but punk is so inaccurate to the point that it's considered vandalism. Digressing, pop-rock is vague, considering how the user above is depicting it. Pop meant popular, which they are sort of, and rock is just music with guitars--horrible description.

They are Alternitive rock... suck it up emo fags.

They are not emo.

^^I think you're in denial.They are emo, they're just a classic case of emo. And how are emos hardcores?

I'd like to say that you are all completely wrong. Bert has already said that he dosn't care what genre they are. And I think it's good. You don't have to be in a genre. But if you want to label them go ahead. Just know that all your labels will be wrong.

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I've just been on a tour around wikipedia, looking at all the emo band pages, and every single one has a debate of whether they're emo or not. It seems to be the first genre where everyone's in denial - maybe that goes with the music...? Find me a band that are universally accepted as "emo" - I'm telling you it can't be done! - Dave

That's what the banner at the top of the page is for. I can't expand the project more because it's still young and there are not many members, but from what I've already summed up at This Very Page The Used self-titled album applies to basically everything. The bands you've checked, which were probably MCR, Dashboard and FFTL, don't even come close to any aspects of Emo (in terms of music and lyrics). Pre-Static Prevails Jimmy Eat World is an Emo band. They were a huge influence on Quinn's guitarworks in the first place (Listen to Pieces Mended intro chord for a reference). Again people, instead of editing band's genre and flaming each other on the talk page - please read the article of the banner on the top of this article. It would help much more to all disputed bands' pages on wikipedia if we'd be able to establish what exactly is Emo Music (and the first steps have already been done there). Iceness 00:51, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Why don't you stop the pointless fucking arguing and just call it 'Rock' which one way or another it basically is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.159.136.163 (talk) 18:22, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Added boilerplate cleanup tag

I've added the boilerplate cleanup tag. The "biography" section of this article is very poorly conceived. It needs to be rewritten badly. Wlmaltby3 09:26, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Well then go ahead and rewrite it.

This page also needs to be revised for POV by someone who doesn't care about The Used. Also, there are plenty of bands that sound like The Used; think My Chemical Romance, Hawthorne Heights, Story of the Year, etc. Ham Dinner 05:07, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

They are rock, in a general sence. They are not emo. Dasboard Confessional is emo. The Used is just a specific type of rock.

the dashboard confessionals are not emo first of all and either are the used. They have all different types of music they play. They are not calssified as one specific type of music. come of there music is hardcore some of it is soft. so suck it up and get used to the fact that they are NOT emo.... they are by far the best band

""there are plenty of bands that sound like The Used; think My Chemical Romance, Hawthorne Heights, Story of the Year,"" Uhm... not being rude but... I don't think that they're all that similar... lots of diferences... Pumpkins —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.7.232.102 (talk) 08:29, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Cleanup

I just cleaned this article up and removed a LOT of NPOV shit from it. Compare it in the history to see what I removed. Is this article a copyvio from somewhere? The band website or a press release or something? The marketspeak suggests so. I googled it but all I could see was stuff stolen from here.

Also if someone could find sources for all the quotes, that would be great. Alexforcefive 20:58, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

the dashboard confessionals are not emo first of all and either are the used. They have all different types of music they play. They are not calssified as one specific type of music. some of there music is hardcore some of it is soft. so suck it up and get used to the fact that they are NOT emo.... they are by far the best band —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.84.238.54 (talk) 21:04, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

conflicted dates

In the info box it says they got together in 2001, but in the bio paragraph it says they got together in 1996. Which is it? Spuddy 17 17:58, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

They got together in 2001, whoever said 1996 is confusing The Used with Jeph and Branden's previous band, Strange Itch, which formed in 1996. The members havent even all known each other since 1996. Reiver 18:01, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Genre

I suggest that if the genre is disputed e.g. My Chemical Romance confusion are they poprock?emo? punk? emo-punk? emopoprock?

Just put it under rock. No one can argue with that...pop rock is reserved for bands like GC and Simple Plan, and then emoists(my word) get mad if you label stuff emo when it isn't and then there are the bands who try to play everything. Rock says it all. Candy, unregistered

Rhapsody puts them under

Alternative/Punk > Grunge > Post-Grunge > The Used

That sound about right to me...

...they offical formed in 2001 but branden started to form the band in the 90s and they tried out various line ups but nothing was clicking until the hooked up with bert and they solified with that line up and offically formed in 2001

Genre

Post-grunge, third-wave emo and pop-rock are all appropriate.

And it's not the emo fans who get upset at calling them emo, it's the fans of the Used who know that the term "emo" has become an insult, and wish to distance them from it. Just like Slipknot and nu-metal. But most kids who listen to My Chemical Romance, The Used, Hawthorne Heights Story of the Year, etc. consider themselves and the bands they like "emo", and the Used are definitely big in the current popular "emo" scene. Also: Please use "modern rock" instead of "rock", it's more accurate and still acceptable by all. --Switch 15:24, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree with putting The Used under the "rock or modern rock" genre. Rock does cover many bands and you don't have to worry about labels. It doesn't matter what type of music the band is labeled as, as long as they enjoy making music. If you really like their music, that should be all that matters, not what they're labeled under. MusicGirl21 00:49, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

genres (genri?) help identify more music fans of a particular genre might dig. or so i imagine.

Genre confusion

I'm not so sure pop punk is a suitable genre for the band. They don't sound like other bands that are considered to be pop punk, like Good Charlotte or Simple Plan. (Those are the two most prominent examples I could think of.) They're more along the lines of post-hardcore, but not quite. I'm not sure what I'd classify them as, but I don't think I'd classify them as pop punk. —Wlmaltby3 08:24, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Also, one might consider the fact that pop punk bands don't...well, they don't scream in their music. If they do, it's never prominent. The Used employ screaming in almost every song; some songs, screaming is the most prominent form of vocals. —Wlmaltby3 08:25, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Good Charlotte and Simple Plan are not definitively representative of pop-punk. In fact, as far as I know, they are not even called such on their articles. Please read the Pop Punk article. --Switch 12:48, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Who the hell said they are pop/rock in the infobox? Have u ever heard Good charlotte use screaming vocals. Exactly. The Used sound NOTHING like pop rock. I cna see the point with the emo debate but whatever they are they are not pop rock. And can someone plase change it to just Rock not Modern Rock as that article is a bit rubbish.

Yeah, they definetly arent pop rock, thats for sure. Kokiri kid 03:36, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

in all the genres you guys put, EMO has to be on one them

I mean these guys are as EMO as it gets..FACT!

...In every Wiki page where there some relation to emo (well alright...i only know of the Green Day and My Chemical Romance page, but it makes my point) people furiousley debate that the band is not emo. So who is emo? Cmon, the used are a perfect example of emo.Kokiri kid 08:01, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes I agree. I think Emo should be added to their genre list. This is an encyclopedia, not a fan page. PrettyMuchBryce 04:29, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

You realy think that MCR and Green day are emo?

well unfortunately all three of you and your suggestions to label them emo, is irrevalent to due your ignorance of the real definition and sound of emo. there is accurate article on wikipedia about emo. Please read it.

If this is an encyclopedia, and we're dealing with facts, then you have to state factual information, correct? The Used as a band, do not encompass any characteristics of the emo or screamo sound. Screamed vocals do not mean that a band is screamo, especially given all of the other qualities of the music (the incredibly melodic nature of their music vs the discordant nature of screamo, lack of odd time signatures and changes, etc.). Also, their sounds is not reminiscent of any early emo bands, so to say that they fit under that genre is misinformed at best. Now, I will give in to them being influenced by hardcore punk, but that influence is limited almost strictly to Bert's vocals, not the rest of the band's music.

THE USED AS A BAND SAID THEY DONT REALLY CARE WHAT GENRE THEY COME UNDER AS LONG AS THEY MAKE GOOD MUSIC, THEY WERE THEN ASKED WHAT THEY WOULD CALL THEMSELVES AND QUINN SAID IF I HAD TOO I WOULD SAY WE WOULD BE AN EMO BAND ITS SETTLED FAGS

I'm a solo electronic musician, and I could call myself "unicorn pop" if I wanted to, but it wouldn't mean that had anything to do with what genre I actually fell under. It doesn't matter what the band labels themselves as. They are not an emo band, they retain few, if any of the qualities of emo. So please, if you're going to use some reference to make your point, be sure that it's a legitimate reference beforehand.

I think the genre on their page should be whatever is they say they are on their myspace, unless their myspace says something like hip hop or gangster rap. C'mon guys, of all thethings to bitch about when u could easily find the info on their myspace!

If they aren't emo, then we might as well stop using the label on anyone. - Razorhead 1 April 2007

We might as well stop using that label on anyone who isn't emo. Bands like Rites of Spring and Moss Icon are emo. The Used is no where close. They show no emo influence in any of their music. As for myspace, That is just a ridiculous statement. Just because you call yourself a genre does not make you that genre. Manupod 21:49, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

They are Not Emo

People who say bands like The Used are emo, don't know what emo is. That's a simple fact. And they are CERTAINLY not screamo. I don't know how many more times I'm going to have to make this speech.

The argument I keep seeing, that bands like The Used or My Chemical Romance should be labeled emo because that's what they're most identified as, is irrelevant. Many people believe George Washington chopped down his father's cherry tree, but publishing that in what's supposed to be a reliable source of information like wikipedia is irresponsible. It's not true. And it's the same principle with The Used.

Saying the The Used is emo or screamo based on popular opinion makes no sense and completely ignores the historical and social context of the terms emo and screamo that are extremely important and often intentionally ignored out of a certain sense of easiness or laziness to learn about musical genres. It's so easy to label a band emo because of whiny lyrics, "scene" styles, and a gothy image, but those are not and have never been acceptable ways to define a genre.

My sources?

Emo: Moss Icon

Screamo: La Quiete

The best examples of bands in both genres when properly defined, and anyone in the DIY punk/emo scene can verify that. Listen to them and tell me with a straight face that they sound like the whiny pop-punk that is The Used.

Thank you.

Agreed. The Used is nowhere near "Screamo" in any way. Manupod 21:45, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, agreed. The interpretations of the genres have been lost and no one really pays attention to the actual meanings anymore. Today, emo means a band with a whiny singer and a weird haircut. FatalError (talk) 22:37, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

See Also

Maybe I'm not used to band pages but... What connection do the See Also links have to the band? Are they related? Seems to me like someone decided that it would be cool to post some bands that are similar in their head. I am removing this section. If someone feels this is a wrong move, please give us a good reason, and revert. Thanks. Lunis Neko 19:38, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

not emo

helo bert is up there in his shorts his Tennis shoes and his fave shirt rocking out doing his thing if you knew enyhting about the used. signed by dimity

So? hey hello is writen like that not helo, an anything is writen like that, not enything, if you would know ANYTHING about ortography...

Punk

Dear god. I am removing this from their description. They are NOT punk in any meaning of the phrase, demeanor, mindset or even fashion.

They are nothing similar to any punk band I care to think of, be it Sex Pistols, The Adolescents, The Adicts, The Vibrators, Dead Kennedys, NOFX, Bad Religion or any others.

What they are, however, is still up for interpretation, I reakon. Some mix of post-hardcore, screamo and emo I reakon.88.109.1.33 22:58, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I have heard magazines refer to them as 'punk' while in reality they are better fitted for Post Punk which Wikipedia explains: "Yet as punk itself soon came to have a signature sound a few bands began to experiment...". They are clearly influenced by emo, but sound much different from normal emo bands such Taking Back Sunday and Dashboard Confessional, which makes the near catch all Alternative Rock a much better description. Screamo (despite the debate) does define them well, being a subgenre of emo. Perhaps closer even than Alternative Rock. The only other subgenre of emo is Hardcore which suits them very poorly musically. Also, but very importantly, playing music in a subgenre (in this case screamo) is going to sound in many instances very similar from what it derives from (in this case emo). What I'm afraid of is punk rockers disliking the band and refusing to admit they do lean towards punk rock half the time or maybe fans of the Used refusing to admit that many songs tend to sound closer to emo than anything else.Dark jedi requiem 02:51, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

You are very ignorant to the genres you are talking about. Emo is a subgenre of Hardcore, which is a subgenre of punk. Taking Back Sunday and Dashboard are not emo. Emo bands would be like Rites of Spring, Moss Icon, and Jawbreaker. Hardcore bands would be Minor Threat, Black Flag, Bad Brains, Circle Jerks, and Dead Kennedys. The Used is Alternative/Pop-rock with some Post-Hardcore influences. Manupod 19:16, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Manupod said it. This has no relationship to punk or emo. -- FatalError (talk | contribs) 01:50, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Lets try doing something useful for once

On every band page I go to theres always a huge genre dispute. It doesnt matter really. so lets forget about it and try and actually *IMPROVE* the article.

Perhaps we could add a section about their music? As in how it sounds. Im no music theory expert or anything, but maybe someone out there could write something up. You know about stuff like, Bert's variety of vocal techniques, Jeph's bass (im not sure what to use to describe it; his playing style is slower and sludge-ier than most "post-hardcore" bands out there.), and Quinn's guitar style. I mean, the drumming, for example, is obviously not punk or anything fast and repetitive so people can narrow down where they get their influences from. Or better yet, if theyve ever cited other bands as influences in interviews so we can have sources.

Its probably Jeph's playing and Bert's vocals that set them apart from the masses. (i.e. I actually like them whereas I rarely like any other bands that spawned in the 2000s. of course, my opinion means nothing so that doesnt matter.)

Anyways thats about all I have to say. Well, I could say more like how Jeph's page could use a cleanup so its on par with the other member's pages, but thats probably better off on his page. Lamentingvampire09 08:13, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

New Single?

Can somebody post a link to where they found out the name of the new single? I haven't read anything that supports the song being called "Handsome Awkward" and, while the Untitled third CD page does have a link, it doesn't go anywhere. If there isn't a link posted soon, I think we should delete it, because otherwise, they haven't released anything saying this.

Here is a 30 second preview of the song.

Gold

i noticed that the first sentence on the page says "The Used is a rock band from Orem, Utah with two gold albums" while under the discography three albums are listed as gold. i think one should be fixed.

2 are gold albumss and one isnt a real studio cd but the release went gold.

oh i didnt notice that, nevermind then

emo???

You know, my friend says that the used are not emo, and according to that person, it says on used's website that they're not emo, and if that is true, that could be a source to verify this. Do you think this is true, or are there different meanings for the word "emo", that I didn't know about? I'm not too interested in this, but a reply would be welcome, thanks. AstroHurricane001^{(Talk+Contribs+Ubx)} 18:34, 22 February 2007 (UTC) It fits in every aspect of the emo, for that reason a self-labeling band can't say what genere they play or not, for example Panda, they say they're emo and inde, wel they're not

Chart Positions Of Singles

Unless there is a valid reason for deleting the chart positions for the singles i.e. it somehow causing offence to someone, can they not be deleted as they have been retrieved from the most reliable source.

Grim Reaper66 18.13 25th February 2007

they look ugly and incomplete as a chart form...keep them as a list

Well thats not really a valid reason as there are hundreds of bands on wikipedia who have the chart form and there aren't any complaints about it from other users

Grim Reaper66 18.23 25th February 2007

well i dont want my fav band page looking ugly if sum1 wants to no it they cud look it up...deal with it

yes, the whole point of wikipedia is to look things up, hence you have the chart positions on a bands page... deal with it

Grim Reaper66 18.30 25th February 2007

well seeing as others use this page, what does everyone else prefer? just a list of the singles or the chart positions as well, which are confirmed by the billboard website?

Grim Reaper66 18.38 25th February 2007

it may be nice to have them but they look ugly and are so incomplete as only one colum is totally filled

ugly is your opinion. you are entitled to your own opinion and i don't dispute that. But the whole point of wikipedia is to present information in an unbias way to inform people. The chart positions are not bias. And anyway, the table could look worse, i have seen different versions of the table on other pages and in my opinion is one of the better laid out designs.

Grim Reaper66 18.55 25th February 2007

This is an encyclopedia, not a fan page, if you want to make something pretty go make a website for them. The fact is some people find chart positions useful. They have charted in quite a few places if you look around meaning that it can fill up spaces. Anyone who wants to help me with this is more than welcome, if you can leave a website saying where you go the info from!

Layout

I think the layout of the page should be changed to how it was before. Whoever edited it probably shouldnt have, as it makes reference to the band 'blowing up', which sounds silly, and that the band 'kicked Brandon out', whereas later on in the article it contradicts itself by stating he left. I would change it back but I have no idea how to. Kokiri kid 10:16, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

i made it like this because its better and branden said himself on myspace he was kicked out

Hearing "i made it like this because its better" from someone using neither capital letters nor punctuation scares me. Kingoomieiii 14:30, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

"Demos From The Basement"

Demos From The Basement was NOT the name of the Used's first demo. The demo was merely labelled this by the person who ripped it. There was no title for it. If you look on the CD cover you'll see it simply says 'Used'. This was of course their band name back then. It was named 'Demos From The Basement' by the ripper, also the owner of theused801.com, because the demos were recorded in Branden's basement. Hope this clears everything up. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by RichardOB1234 (talk • contribs) 00:54, 6 April 2007 (UTC).

I've taken this from the .nfo of the release of the demo: This is a 10 track demo CD. Recorded in the drummers basement in Orem, Utah. Surely that proves you wrong? And like I said on your page, why would people call it Demos From The Basement if it had nothing to do with a basement? --RichardOB1234 17:39, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

That's a pretty big call to label yourself the biggest Used fan ever... And nobody has to confirm anything through you at all... Wikipedia is for everyone to edit, not just you. Kokiri kid 11:12, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

they used to pratice in a bedroom but basement sounded better so thats what chad named it and now the name has stuck with it

Branden was kicked out of the band

someone keeps changing it to he left the band but on BRANDEN'S personal myspace, he, himself posted a blog titled "Kicked out of The Used" so stop changing it to that he left the band cause they kicked him out!

Logo?

Is it appropriate to use that logo in the infobox? They've never used it on an album. In fact, they never use the same logo. If anything, I'd say someone extract the logo from the current album, as that's what up on their official site (http://www.theused.net/).
Kingoomieiii 09:18, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks to whoever took my suggestion. Kingoomieiii

NO POST-HARDCORE

POST-HARDCORE bands are like 36 Crazyfists, Alexonfire or Eighteen Visions but not the used! the used are just an Emo band! they make Emocore/Screamo/alternative ROCK but not post-hardcore your right, but the right espeling of Alexonfire is AlexISonfire (Alexisonfire), like Alexis On Fire, not Like Alex On fire

Bert Undergoing surgery

I just saw this on one of The Used's myspace post. "Bert McCracken has just been advised to undergo surgery due to the fact that he has developed a node on one of his vocal chords. Consequently, the band has been forced to cancel their shows on all upcoming dates during June and July, including the Van's Warped Tour. Doctors have recommended treatment as well as rest without singing and are expecting a full recovery. He will be able to sing again in about five weeks.

The band is incredibly disappointed but promised to return to touring in the USA in early September with headlining dates. "Kevin Lyman and the Van's Warped tour have been amazing supporters of our band and we are truly saddened that we won't be able to perform on this year's tour," states Quinn Allman, The Used’s guitarist. We hope to have new tour details ready for release shortly." BleedXthroughXmyXheart

Berts Surgery,Back on Tour, PHA Video

Hey Everyone

We are going on tour.

Bert had his surgery and he is recovering. Thank you for all of your kind thoughts.

Our first date back is August 19 in Kansas City. Please go to the tour page to see where we are playing.

Look for the video for Pretty Handsome Awkward which will be posted soon.

Love,

The Used (this was posted on the bands official website July 12th)

Ha, it sounded like The Used were posting on Wikipedia. Electriceel [ə.lɛk.tʃɹɪk il] 01:19, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Genre citation

I changed the genre from Alternative to Emo, because the allmusic citation does not say they are alternative. There has been considerable debate here about whether they are emo or not. The emo detractors have supplied their "evidence" and it does not support their claims. Well, even according to them, they are emo after all :) Pwnage8 00:01, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Allmusic doesn't decide genres. You can't base your decision solely off that. Just because some guy says The Used are emo doesn't mean they are. And they aren't. -- FatalError (talk | contribs) 04:34, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Just because some guy says they aren't emo doesn't mean they aren't. --Pwnage8 (talk) 20:43, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

It's not just me, it's the entire article on emo. I wonder if you've read it? Tell me how emotionally charged hardcore punk describes The Used in any way. -- FatalError (talk | contribs) 01:47, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

EMO?!?!

the used arent emo they're alternative and punk- laserboy1134

I agree, maybe no so much punk but they are not emo. And their new material is alternative rock. FatalError (talk) 21:32, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

grammatical error

fixed the grammatical error "the used are a band" to "the used is a band".

Genre

Since there is such a debate on the Used genres', I believe that we should put the genre as alternative rock and disputed genres like the MCR and Fallout Boy pages. DavidJJJ 13:05, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Agreed, that would probably stop all the arguing. -- FatalError (talk | contribs) 01:48, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Pics

Hi,
maybe someone can take a look at commons:Category:Attendee to be named, in the 6th and 7th row are a few pics that seem to show this band. Can anyone confirm? Thanks, --NoCultureIcons 16:36, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

They Are Emo/Alternative/Screamo

I had to laugh almost i read that someone said: they are not emo they are alternative and punk! LOL!! THEY ARE not post-hardcore and not punk rock! They are emocore/alternative rock/screamo! and when somebody thinks diffrent than he or she should write it here!

You should read the article on emo and tell me if emotional hardcore punk describes The Used in any way. Same with screamo. They have absolutely NOTHING to do with The Used. FatalError (talk) 22:27, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

MCR and The Used

The Used posted a bulletin on myspace with this video

• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-nCHeWH23Y

is that worth mentioning in regard to the MCR and The Used relationship. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.159.141.158 (talk) 18:14, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

"vegetarian"?

Hi. According to my friend, The Used are a vegetarian band. Is this true? Can someone go check, and look for references to cite this? If they are, should it be mentioned in the article? A google search should do, but don't actually cite the search link itself. Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 23:42, 5 November 2007 (UTC)