Talk:The Song of La Palice

In The de Lincy version the line "Son habit doublé de frise" is translated with "... his velvet-lined cloak" but there is a note in the source indicating that this is merely a guess. "Habit" is clothes, coat, outfit, costume, etc., so cloak is fine although it could just as well be coat, but according to WordReference.com "frise" is "frise nf clothes frieze" and according to Merriam-Webster.com "frieze" is "a heavy durable coarse wool and shoddy fabric with a rough surface" (or "a pile surface of uncut loops or of patterned cut and uncut loops", but that seems unlikely in this context). It also says that this sense of frieze comes from Middle English frise, from Anglo-French. (And thence from Middle Dutch vriese, but Anglo-French frise is what we want, here.) I would suggest changing "velvet-lined cloak" to "wool-lined coat". —DavidConrad (talk) 08:42, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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