Talk:The Snows of Kilimanjaro (short story)

Split book/film

16-May-2007: I have split text from the book article to create "The Snows of Kilimanjaro (1952 film)" since the film and book are both famous and likely to expand with extensive details in each article. With the film starring Gregory Peck and Ava Gardner (both mega-movie-stars), many sections could be written about the film and its public reception.

The decision to split was mainly one about the effort to define two articles (which I have done). Logically, the 2 articles simplify the view for film-versus-book details. A similar split was done with "Out of Africa" and "Out of Africa (film)" since both, in that case, were also famous (the book remained in print since publication in 1937). I linked book/film with hat-notes atop each. -Wikid77 11:12, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the work on the split. I performed some cleanup involving removing inappropriate disambig hatnotes and some other minor formatting changes that appeared to be residual of the split. If you have questions about my changes, consult the applicable MoS sections. Cheers, Robert K S (talk) 09:03, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

The Links for the films are all messed up and do not send you to the film it says, For example: A Fairwell to Arms leads to The Old Man in the sea (1990 Film) and that page dose not exsist, someone please correct this.

Disambiguation

For disambiguation, I simply added hat-notes linking book/film at the top of each article, rather than have a disambiguation-page. However, such a famous elegant name ("Snows of Kilimanjaro") probably has/will become a tourist agency, or an upscale housing subdivision (or a ride at Disneyland), so creating a disambiguation-page might be needed within a few months. For now, I'm hoping to focus attention on expanding the book/film articles, rather than writing about any spinoff names. -Wikid77 11:12, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Other issues

[ Discuss untitled issues here. -Wikid77]

WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 13:53, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Snows of kilamajaro.gif

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:29, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Literature project

How to write a short story 41.114.40.214 (talk) 14:20, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Does Harry die in the end?

Every other synopses I read, of The Snows of Kilimanjaro, state that the protagonist dies in the end, but the Plot section of this article was careful to say instead that “Hellen (…) finds Harry UNRESPONSIVE on his cot”.

In fact, a close reading of the last three sentences of the story — “she could not hear him breathing. Outside the tent the hyena made the same strange noise that had awakened her. But she did not hear him for the beating of her heart.” — seems to indicate that Hellen couldn’t hear Harry’s breath because of the beating of her heart, which means that Harry was indeed breathing.

Since every other commentary about this story, says the contrary, shouldn’t this article call the attention to the ambiguity (one could say slyness) of the ending, and the possibility that it implies the character has not really died? 2001:818:DC22:B100:4171:1233:EC81:E2E2 (talk) 22:09, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. Unless a reliable source could be found supporting the conclusion that Harry was alive or that the ending was intentionally left ambiguous by Hemingway, it would be considered original research to add such an interpretation. Sincerely, Novo Tape (She/Her)^{My Talk Page} 22:11, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

Hello Novo Tape. I definitely agree that the pedia shouldn't state that the character was alive. What I suggest would bring value to the reader is pointing out what is written in the text and the different textual, verbatim, meanings that axiomatically are entailed by it.

That's not, I believe, beyond the scope of an intelligently writen encyclopedia. Informed reading and interpretation is actually at the core of the value it brings to the reader.

A cursive search on the Web shows that a lot of readers struggle and discuss a lot about the use of pronoun "her" in the last sentence, to the point that many a reader believe that "her" refers to the hyena. 148.69.196.207 (talk) 09:58, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

I did some digging and I found a source corroborating the fact that the ending is ambiguous and I'll add a citation now and state that the ending is not explicit. Sincerely, Novo Tape (She/Her)^{My Talk Page} 15:51, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Leopard on the top of Kilimanjaro

A famous czech traveller Miroslav Zikmund claimed in the book Afrika snů a skutečností, vol. 2, to pick up and take along the carcass of a leopard during their climb on the top (just under the rim) of Kilimanjaro in January 1947, possibly still making a part of his traveller's collection. Iarostgo (talk) 10:03, 11 January 2024 (UTC)