Talk:The Science of Nature
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founder
[edit]This press release from Sringer (online translation from german) says the journal if was founded by Arnold Springer-Verlag. --Enric Naval (talk) 20:08, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Subject matter
[edit]http://www.springer.com/life+sci/journal/114 says it covers "biological, chemical, geological, and physical sciences" -- is there any indication otherwise? Splargo (talk) 08:42, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- Well, Splargo, it was nice to know you, even if only a little, bye. In your last edit, knowing the end was coming, you did good. I'm impressed. IP editors are welcome any time at User talk:Abd/IP, though I don't necessarily read that immediately (my watchlist is huge). (Often my Talk page is semiprotected though it's open right now.) I made the change to "Interdisciplinary," which is the case with Naturwissenschaften, I looked at Nature (journal) and that was how it was listed. Thanks for noticing this, it's been a bit of a troublemaker. The confusion arises because Naturwissenschaften is classified by Springer-Verlag in the Life Sciences category, probably because they don't have a multidisciplinary category -- this is their only one, to my knowledge -- and they had to stick it somewhere! Most papers, indeed, seem to be in the life sciences, but they have access to excellent review resources in any of the natural sciences. --Abd (talk) 22:09, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
- Bilby changed it to Natural sciences, which is okay. Here is what they say:
- Naturwissenschaften - The Science of Nature - is Springer’s flagship multidisciplinary science journal covering all aspect [sic] of the natural sciences. The journal is dedicated to the fast publication of high-quality research following rigorous peer-review process and publishes a whole array of work that reflects the contemporary developments across the broad field of the natural sciences. Particularly welcomed are contributions that bridge between traditionally isolated areas and attempt to increase the conceptual understanding of systems and processes that demand an interdisciplinary approach. However, this does not exclude the publication of high-quality topical articles, which will continue to be the core of the journal.
- Bilby changed it to Natural sciences, which is okay. Here is what they say:
- They are both interdisciplinary and natural science. --Abd (talk) 23:23, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
- Strictly speaking, they can be better described as interdisciplinary within the natural sciences, but the use of the broad term, "natural sciences", tends to encompass interdisciplinary within that general area. - Bilby (talk) 23:55, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
- Sure. However, Naturwiss. seems to encourage papers that cross specific areas within the natural sciences. There might be a "natural sciences" journal that doesn't do this, or doesn't do it to the degree that Naturwissenschaften does. Not a big deal, to be sure, but there is a wikipolitical bite to this, as you may know. Naturwissenschaften has now published a series of papers by the SPAWAR group on low energy nuclear reactions, and it was claimed, in an attempt to impeach this when mentioned in Cold fusion, that Naturwiss. was a "life sciences journal," the implication being (and that implication was made explicit in Talk) that they would not have the resources to properly review the articles, which isn't true. Nature (journal) is also classified within Interdisciplinary, similar situation. --Abd (talk) 11:55, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
- Strictly speaking, they can be better described as interdisciplinary within the natural sciences, but the use of the broad term, "natural sciences", tends to encompass interdisciplinary within that general area. - Bilby (talk) 23:55, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
- You seem to be arguing over nothing - I'm not sure why "interdisciplinary" is so important to you, but they don't describe themselves as an interdisciplinary journal, but as a natural sciences one. As per your quote above. They mention interdisciplinary research, but that's not how they are billed. Nature does bill themselves as an interdisciplinary journal. Natural sciences does include physics, so there is no particular reason why a natural sciences journal shouldn't publish a cold fusion article. (Although given their usual papers, it is an odd choice in this case - they may bill themselves as natural sciences, but their current focus is very clearly life sciences within that). - Bilby (talk) 12:38, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
- This was not over nothing. Naturwissenschaften has published some papers relevant to Cold fusion. In that article, when the journal was mentioned, an editor described it as a "life sciences journal." The implication was that they would not have the resources to review an article on cold fusion. In fact, Naturwissenschaften has the best review resources. As to how they are "billed," they are a natural sciences journal, for sure. There are different "billings." My emphasis.
- Subject: Biomedical and Life Sciences, Chemistry and Materials Science, Earth and Environmental Science, Life Sciences, Life Sciences, general and Environment, general.[1]
- Naturwissenschaften - The Science of Nature - is Springer’s flagship multidisciplinary science journal covering all aspect of the natural sciences. The journal is dedicated to the fast publication of high-quality research covering the whole range of the biological, chemical, geological, and physical sciences. Particularly welcomed are contributions that bridge between traditionally isolated areas and attempt to increase the conceptual understanding of systems and processes that demand an interdisciplinary approach. However, this does not exclude the publication of high-quality topical articles, which will continue to be the core of the journal. ... Naturwissenschaften is only interested in publishing the very best of research, and the selection criteria are scientific excellence, novelty, and the potential to attract the widest possible readership, reflecting the multidisciplinary nature of the journal. The journal published Original articles, Reviews, and Short Communications. With the Comments & Reply section, NAWI aims to stimulate scientific discussion or elaborate on opposing view in response to an article published in the journal.[2]. --Abd (talk) 18:10, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
- This was not over nothing. Naturwissenschaften has published some papers relevant to Cold fusion. In that article, when the journal was mentioned, an editor described it as a "life sciences journal." The implication was that they would not have the resources to review an article on cold fusion. In fact, Naturwissenschaften has the best review resources. As to how they are "billed," they are a natural sciences journal, for sure. There are different "billings." My emphasis.
Naturwissenschaften (The Science of Nature) — the premier journal of record of LENR — is the journal of the Hermann von Helmholtz-Gemeinschaft Deutscher Forschungszentren (Hermann von Helmholtz Association of German Research Centres). So it appears that Ed Storms was seized by a Flight of Fancy (Abduction of the Mind) and fell down a Gemeinschaft, where he has been trapped ever since. —Barsoom Tork (talk) 17:08, 27 December 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.123.40.50 (talk)