Talk:Royal National College for the Blind/GA1

GA Review

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This is a nice article for which the nominator has invested considerable effort. The nominator and others would please address each bulleted item individually, after which I will strike it through when I consider it resolved.

A good article has the following attributes:

  1. It is well written. In this respect:
         (a) the prose is clear and the spelling and grammar are correct; and
         (b) it complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, jargon, words to avoid, fiction, and list incorporation.

• All citations should directly follow a punctuation mark (no spaces between, and should never interrupt a phrase). Please fix. Done
• For Courses offered, bullets should not end with periods since not complete sentences Done
• Per WP:LEADCITE, citations are not needed in the article lead (introduction) unless the material is controversial. It is expected the citation would follow in the body of the article when the text is elaborated upon. Done

  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable. In this respect, it:
         (a) provides references to all sources of information, and at minimum contains a section dedicated to the attribution of those sources in accordance with the guide to layout;
         (b) at minimum, provides in-line citations from reliable sources for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons;[2] and
         (c) contains no original research.

Looks fine for GA, but for FAC, all sources need to incorporate complete WP:Cite refs (e.g., WP:Cite web refs should have author, date, title, URL, etc.).

  3. It is broad in its coverage. In this respect, it:
         (a) addresses the major aspects of the topic;[3] and
         (b) stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary details (see summary style).

This will pass for GA, but needs serious attention for any further consideration. Perhaps consult FA Baltimore City College.

  4. It is neutral; that is, it represents viewpoints fairly and without bias.

• Are there no controversies or criticisms of the college?

• The college has faced criticism in recent times. I will add some information regarding this. Done

  5. It is stable; that is, it is not the subject of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. Vandalism reversion, proposals to split or merge content, good faith improvements to the page (such as copy editing) and changes based on reviewers' suggestions do not apply. Nominations for articles that are unstable because of constructive editing should be placed on hold.

No prior issues

  6. It is illustrated, where possible, by images.[4] In this respect:
         (a) images used are tagged with their copyright status, and fair use rationales are provided for non-free content; and
         (b) the images are appropriate to the topic, and have suitable captions.[5]

Logo checks out under fair-use. Kind of a bummer to not have any pictures, but that won't hold up GA.

Have submitted a request for photos.

Annotated comments from Brianboulton

• The article needs expanding. Among information not in the article is:-
  • How long students stay there, on average
    • information not available
  • Whether the college is co-educational
    • College is co-educational
  • Some history of student numbers since 1900, in particular, what are the current numbers?
    • Numbers currently around 200. No history available of numbers between 1900 and present.
  • Are there entry requirements, academic or otherwise? If not, on what basis does it accept students?
    • Specialist college for students with visual impairment.
  • When, exactly, did it change its name?
    • 1978 when the college moved to Hereford.
  • What is the significance of the statement that "the majority of the students are blind or partially sighted"? This implies there is a minority of fully-sighted students - is that so? If it is, why would they choose to attend this college?
    • All students are blind or partially sighted.
• Images: There are no images at present. Have any attempts been made to acquire images, beyond a search of Commons?
  • Have uploaded logo and filed request for relevant images/photos.
• References: There are several unreferenced statements that need citation, I have put citation tags in some instances, but there could be others needing to be referenced.
  • All statements now referenced.

Conclusion

In its current condition, I will put the article on hold for one week until the above issues are resolved. As part of my consideration of this GAN, I would also request that each issue User:Brianboulton raised above also be addressed. If it cannot pass this time, it can be renominated in the future, but I am confident that all issues can be resolved within the week. Best wishes! --Eustress (talk) 03:55, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Promote to GA: This is a GA now as far as I'm concerned...congratulations! --Eustress (talk) 01:37, 5 December 2008 (UTC)