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Bilbo's Song?

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I removed a sentence from the article saying that the walking song is sometimes referred to as "Bilbo's Song" - in fact, I think Bilbo's Song is the one seen here that starts "I sit beside the fire and think...". Maybe the term is also used for this song, but as I was not sure, I removed it from the article and left this note here. Carcharoth 20:05, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Or "Bilbo's Song" could be "Bilbo's Last Song", or it could just be an ambiguous term. If someone tries to revive that, let's ask for citations. - Lawrence King 02:10, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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I believe it's copyright infringement to have the complete text of a poem on Wikipedia (or anywhere) without paying for it. Does anyone disagree? - Lawrence King 07:18, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is actually possible to quote an entire poem without infringing copyright. The copyright pertains to the whole book, and fairly large chunks of a book can be quoted as long as there is critical commentary. It could be argued that this is WP:OR (as Wikipedia is not the place to write original literary commentary), but I don't think this is copyright infringement. For other long quotes of poems, see Jabberwocky, though admittedly the copyright on that has expired. Carcharoth 21:52, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Addition to your list of Musical arrangements?

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I didn't want to just go ahead and add something to your list of musical arrangements of "The old walking song", but I think you might find this version interresting. It was recorded in 1989 by a symphonic rock band called Longshanks and is performed by three singers accompanied only by one accoustic guitar. It was used to at the beginning and at the end of their Tolkien inspired concept demo tape "The Quest". You can read all about the song at this webpage: http://www.longshanks.nl/dhtml/Travelling-song.htm ImagesAndMusic (talk) 21:24, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Contested PROD

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I've removed the PROD from this page as I believe it has the ability to meet notability guidelines. In any case, I do not think the deletion to be uncontroversial. I suggest that an AfD is opened if anyone disagrees. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 21:02, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I agree that there should be a discussion if someone thinks this article should be deleted. Personally, I think it is notable and should have an article, although the current version is over-long and could use some trimming. — Lawrence King (talk) 22:08, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lyrics appear in "Into the West"? Where?

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The article claims that portions of the lyrics of "Into the West", the song Annie Lennox sings over the credits of Peter Jackson's adaptation of ROTK, are drawn from The Road Goes Ever On. Can anyone determine why we make that claim? I can't find anything here -- http://www.metrolyrics.com/into-the-west-lyrics-annie-lennox.html -- other than that the song makes reference to a "journeys end", but that's really far too tenuous for us to claim that "parts were used in the lyrics of the song". Am I missing something? If not, I'm thinking I'll remove it from the list of adaptations. Jwrosenzweig (talk) 05:19, 2 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Seeing no objection (or response of any kind), I went through with it today. Jwrosenzweig (talk) 20:42, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: No Great Shaker (talk · contribs) 16:27, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for taking this on. I'll respond to any comments promptly. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:40, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Review

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  1. Well written: the prose is clear and concise.
  2. Well written: the spelling and grammar are correct.
  3. Complies with the MOS guidelines for lead sections.
  4. Complies with the MOS guidelines for article structure and layout.
  5. Complies with the MOS guidelines for words to watch.
  6. Complies with the MOS guidelines for writing about fiction – not applicable.
  7. Complies with the MOS guidelines for list incorporation – not applicable.
  8. Complies with the MOS guidelines for use of quotations.
  9. All statements are verifiable with inline citations provided.
  10. All inline citations are from reliable sources, etc.
  11. Contains a list of all references in accordance with the layout style guideline.
  12. No original research.
  13. No copyright violations or plagiarism.
  14. Broad in its coverage but within scope and in summary style.
  15. Neutral.
  16. Stable.
  17. Illustrated, if possible.
  18. Images are at least fair use and do not breach copyright.

I'll do this review. Hope to have some feedback soon. No Great Shaker (talk) 16:27, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Chiswick Chap. This is excellent and a very enjoyable read. I'm a huge fan of the Tolkien books and I've always thought the poems and ballads gave them an extra dimension. For personal preference only, I would expand It is identical except for changing the word "eager" to "weary" in the fifth line to It is identical to the first except for changing the word "eager" to "weary" in the fifth line. That would be just for clarification. Can I also suggest a paragraph break between the second and third versions in that section?

Both done.

As I say, though, these are personal preference only and I'm not going to put the review on hold for them. This is absolutely a good article and I'm passing it. I'll do the necessary at WP:GA and the talk page. Well done. All the best. No Great Shaker (talk) 21:02, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for the review. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:46, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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