Talk:The Precious Legacy/GA1

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Reviewer: Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:11, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi - I'll make copyedits as I go (please revert if I inadvertently change the meaning) and jot queries below: Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:11, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

The "blockbuster" exhibit drew over 550,000 visitors... - I'd not use "blockbuster" here as sounds puffy. let numbers speak for themselves

 Done Yoninah (talk) 17:46, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

The charter announced that: "the numerous, hitherto scattered Jewish possessions of both historical and artistic value, on the territory of the entire Protectorate, must be collected and stored" - two things - (1) charters don't announce things, people do, and (2) this bit (outside the quotes) is a bit close to the source. Actually the whole lot could be de-quoted. "The Nazis prioritised the museums's directives as the collection and storage of "numerous, hitherto scattered Jewish possessions of both historical and artistic value, on the territory of the entire Protectorate" - something.

 Done Yoninah (talk) 17:46, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

to "prove the case" that the Jews were an inferior race which had to be exterminated - "prove the case" should be reworded and dequoted

 Done Yoninah (talk) 17:46, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

At its peak, the collection held about one million pieces; about 150,000 remained after post-war dispersal. - any extra information on how items were returned to survivors and their families? Did it just happen after the war or has it continued to take place from then till now or...what?

Pinging Reidgreg who added this source. In addition to Casliber's question, I would like to know if the "post-war dispersal" was only to the former inmates of the Theresienstadt Ghetto, or also to the heirs of the Jews deported to the death camps? Yoninah (talk) 17:46, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

The source isn't specific on the dispersal, but let me try to give a little background on the difference between the 1 million figure and the 130,000–150,000. Most of the items in the collection during WWII came through Theresienstadt Ghetto, which served as a stopping point for Jews who would ultimately go to the death camps. These were initially Czech Jews, followed by German and Austrian Jews, then Dutch, Danish, etc. I believe they were generally allowed to bring two suitcases, which were taken from them and the contents catalogued at Theresienstadt and sent to the museum at Prague (one of the Jews who did this work survived and was interviewed at the time of the exhibition). Presumably, the post-war dispersal meant returning items to survivors and descendants when possible, and otherwise to countries of origin, but that's just my best guess (I only looked at sources about the exhibition and didn't investigate the broader subject). The source (ref name "AlatonObjects") does state that the dispersal was completed before Prague's Jewish community turned the remaining items over to the state (1949 or 1950). It would be nice to have a little more about the dispersal, but as it's about items which aren't in the collection, I don't feel it's necessary for a thorough treatment of the exhibition. – Reidgreg (talk) 16:43, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

A brouhaha erupted in Los Angeles when the public learned that that Los Angeles County Museum of Art had turned down the exhibit and that it would instead go to the then far smaller city of San Diego - as much as I like the word "brouhaha", it does strike me as colloquial.....uproar/outcry...something?

Pinging E.M.Gregory who added this source. Was it an outcry, a protest...and by whom? Yoninah (talk) 17:46, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Mentioning that Miami Beach has a large Jewish population would be good if it can be sourced and linked (the point that Reidgreg made on the talk page)

@Reidgreg: could you add this from your source please? Yoninah (talk) 17:46, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

 Done Added with source (ref name "APmiamiBackstage"). The source was a short bit in the Globe and Mail on the opening in Miami Beach, which was credited to the Associated Press. So it's possible there may be a longer/fuller version of the AP story in other publications, particularly in Florida or in cities which would be hosting the exhibition. – Reidgreg (talk) 16:43, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

It seems really weird that it did not get to Australia for another 13 years (!?) - any background on this?

I'll look into it more. Reidgreg do you also have anything? I just found out about it by chance, looking up exhibit catalogues. Yoninah (talk) 17:46, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

It looks like it was really driven by Jana Vytrhlik - see here and here. But also here. We could always try and ask her - Jana is still active and gving a lecture in a few weeks in Hobart. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:16, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

That's a great find! The interview might be too much of a primary source. I did a little follow-up and found this which indicates the exhibit also went to Melbourne and New Zealand. (editing break) Okay, I've expanded for the 1998–1999 tour so much as I could find sources online. Most are primary sources, unfortunately, but it's fairly neutral so hopefully it's okay. @Yoninah: would you mind giving it a look over and maybe cleaning it up a bit? – Reidgreg (talk) 21:46, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

@Reidgreg: primary sources are okay for many things, like filling in uncontroversial details etc. Nice addition! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:31, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

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Pass or Fail: - pending some issues to address, but overall a nice, tight article that doesn't need much to get the green hot-cross bun. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:29, 14 September 2019 (UTC) Okay, am not bothered by the one remaining issue of a word that may be a tad on the colloquial side. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:41, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Casliber thanks! I didn't have time yesterday but hope to polish up the additions today or tomorrow. Yoninah (talk) 10:27, 16 September 2019 (UTC)