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Good articleThe Pointy End has been listed as one of the Media and drama good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Good topic starThe Pointy End is part of the Game of Thrones (season 1) series, a good topic. This is identified as among the best series of articles produced by the Wikipedia community. If you can update or improve it, please do so.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
January 15, 2012Good article nomineeListed
April 19, 2017Good topic candidatePromoted
Current status: Good article

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Reviewer: Mark Arsten (talk · contribs) 17:40, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]


I haven't reviewed a good article before, but how hard could it be :) It might take me a few days to work through this, I've got a bit of a busy weekend ahead.

Initial Comments at 01:40, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

  1. I think the lead section needs to be expanded to fully cover the article.
    Done. Jclemens (talk) 21:31, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  2. I see two Citation Needed tags and there's an uncited paragraph in the last section.
    Done. Jclemens (talk) 21:31, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Is this a Reliable Source?
    Probably not (WP:USERG). This probably applies to several other sources. I suppose we could qualify these statements for the time being with "... according to blogs ..." or similar, or remove the material and wait for the DVD set which will probably contain this sort of background information also.  Sandstein  16:47, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    It's reliable enough for material that's not "challenged or likely to be challenged". There's a bunch of production material scattered here and there, such as in the "making of..." website, but it's been gathered and systematized in blogs. Thus, we have the choice of a reliable primary, or "unreliable" secondary source. Jclemens (talk) 21:31, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Ok, I guess that's not holding it back from meeting GA then. Mark Arsten (talk) 22:44, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  4. There's no picture in the infobox, I don't think that's part of the GA criteria but I see that some other articles on this season's episodes have them.
    Any suggestions as to which picture would be iconic for this ep? Jclemens (talk) 21:31, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Not sure, maybe something with Sansa? Mark Arsten (talk) 22:44, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  5. The article could use a general copyedit.
    Done,  Sandstein  16:47, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Alright, copyediting looks good. I made a few small changes. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:43, 9 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Links and dabs look ok.
Ok, I've gone through and addressed pretty much everything here. Let me know what else is needed. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 21:31, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, I've taken another look at the article and I'm satisfied that it meets the Good Article criteria. Good job guys. Mark Arsten (talk) 22:53, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of Westeros.org has been contested

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The deletion of Westeros.org and the content it supports from this and other articles has been contested here. Darkfrog24 (talk) 02:24, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

RfC: Is Westeros.org an expert SPS?

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There is an RfC at Oathkeeper regarding whether the site Westeros.org meets the criteria for an expert self-published source (and is therefore suitable for use on Wikipedia). It is being cited as a source for the statement "This episode was based on [specific chapters of] [specific book]." This article is likely to be affected by the outcome. Participation is welcome. Darkfrog24 (talk) 23:41, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The RfC concerning Westeros.org was closed with the result that the value of the disputed text should be addressed separately. This RfC is meant to determine whether Game of Thrones episode articles should have a statement like "This episode was based on [specific chapters] of [specific book]" in the body text. (This article had one until about a month ago.[1]) The outcome of this RfC is likely to affect all Game of Thrones episode articles. Participation is greatly appreciated. Darkfrog24 (talk) 21:30, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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"What do we say to the god of death?"

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"Not today!" We need to put this in somewhere. This is repeated by Melisandre right before Arya charges off to kill the Night King and win the war against the undead. It's important. If not here, where? - CorbieV 20:14, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

But it's not a prophecy, just a line that Melisandre quotes later on to spur Arya on. The line doesn't foreshadow anything, and quoting it here adds nothing, as no connection is or can be made between this episode and "The Long Night". Please revert you final edit; pages should be left as the status quo in a dispute. --TedEdwards 20:25, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]