Talk:The Myth of Falcon

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I've made some updates as recommended by User:Alexandermcnabb. The article now includes additional details regarding the inspiration behind the overture, its structure, and music samples of the folk tune integrated by the composer. Also several source links have been added. Patrick0506 (talk) 13:03, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi. You can remove the tag yourself, but I would note that - in my humble opinion - notability for this musical piece is still not established. I'm not going to do a full source analysis, but articles that mention the myth itself, the bird, the conductor and not the actual piece not only don't contribute to notability, but obfuscate any attempt to establish notability! An interview with the composer also doesn't help - and quite what a sheet of the music of 'Forest, forest, forest, round forest of Marosszék' has to do with anything is quite the mystery. . Wikipedia's standard (WP:GNG) is fundamentally, "A topic is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list when it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." (my bold).

That standard still is nowhere being met (again, IMHO, you may care to ask other eyes). Right now, I'd be unsure that this would survive a deletion discussion at WP:AfD

Sorry about the negative feedback! Alexandermcnabb (talk) 13:13, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi Alexander,

Thank you for your feedback. Even if it's negative, it is still very valuable. Thank you.

I understand what you are saying, and I agree that there aren't many articles about the composition itself. It was premiered not that long ago, and we will probably soon have more coverage about this work. I will keep searching for and adding more sources related to this piece.

Although I consider an interview with a living composer (I wish we could talk to Bach and Mozart) a very valuable input for Wikipedia readers, I believe this is what readers are looking for when they search for information about the work. They want to find out additional details, such as who conducted it the first time, with which orchestra, the inspiration behind the title of the overture, which folk tunes the composer integrated, and their origins. Reliable information about the form, duration, and orchestration of the composition is also important.

In my opinion, that is what makes articles valuable for readers and encourages them to visit Wikipedia pages, where editors carefully and meticulously craft articles by compiling all this information from reliable sources on a particular subject.

Anyway, this is just my humble opinion. If you are willing to bring this article to a deletion discussion at WP:AfD, I will understand and respect that. If it were up to me, I would probably remove the tag and give it time and a chance to grow with more sources. On my side, I promise to keep an eye on this article and add any new reliable information as soon as it becomes available. Please let me know your thoughts. All the best and thank you again for your valuable input. Patrick0506 (talk) 11:59, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sending anything to AfD at the moment, so there's a blessing! As I mention, if someone else does I don't think it would survive. I'd consider sending it to WP:DRAFT to avoid that (I can do that for you if you like) and give some time to develop the article without fear of deletion. However, if you don't think sourcing could be significantly improved with what's already out there, that may just be kicking the can down the road. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 13:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, Alexander. Your support is much appreciated. I believe sourcing will be improved, so let's wait a bit. Thank you. Patrick0506 (talk) 13:14, 25 May 2024 (UTC)