Talk:The Masses (collective)

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I'm actively improving this article. I added 7 more references, now up to 10 and will continue to improve this article. Removing deletion template now, and I please encourage feedback here on this talk page or my own Jon Phillips (talk) 06:05, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

On Redirect

This is an active article and not just the simple Heath Ledger article, as it was not his project to begin with and had major impact on culture at larger. There are active edits coming into this article. Jon Phillips (talk) 16:00, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Jon Phillips: The article makes clear that this wasn't just a Ledger project. However the reliable sourcing that is present is all Ledger centric. The article as stands has issues, which I'll be noting immediately after this with tags. I'm not convinced that this collective meets notability - again the coverage its received is about/because of Ledger it's not coming organically about the collective. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:15, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Barkeep49: I understand your points, I will add more primary source material outside of Heath Ledger. Jon Phillips (talk) 12:59, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Barkeep49: I will move the old content to Draft and continue to work on it. There is significant fame bias here because of Heath Ledger. That is unfortunate. Jon Phillips (talk) 06:21, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Jon Phillips: I know you've been convinced all along that this is notable so I wish you luck incubating further in draft. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:41, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

I need to link this to the Heath Ledger article and fix the Ben Harper connection and more. Mainly a note to myself ;) Jon Phillips (talk) 10:27, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]