Talk:The Mary Tyler Moore Show/Archives/2019

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Edits under "Production" were reverted

I recently made some substantial edits to the section "Production", heavily citing a recent book^[1] about the production of the Mary Tyler Moore Show. Those edits were removed and the copy reverted to the previous version, citing WP:UNDUE, which I feel does NOT apply in this case, as the book I cited was heavily sourced from contemporary media sources and interviews with the participants involved and can largely be seen and safely assumed as definitive and indisputable. My edits go into deeper detail about the beginnings of the series from the earliest planning stages by Grant Tinker in 1969, and placed into the context of Ms. Moore's career and it's relevance in the late 1960s. Arguably the MTM Show was a comeback attempt by Moore after a disappointing post-Dick Van Dyke Show career and the evidence (even as corroborated by interviews and statements by Ms. Moore herself) points clearly to that. For a TV program with as much cultural and social significance as the MTM Show, and not including its equally significant impact on the medium of television and the CBS legacy, to only go into the most scant of detail on this is frankly unacceptable. Suggestions? Msr69er (talk) 17:12, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

I have declined your request for a Third opinion, because there isn't a clear dispute between 2 editors. 68.233.214.74 (talk) 16:08, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

I don't think that the above editor saw the dispute at Bbb23's talk page. In my opinion I think your edits are beneficial to the encyclopedia.

Thanks for the support. I noted on Bbb23's talk page that I will leave this article alone. I did say that out of frustration about the reverts. If others indicate agreement and support, I might revisit the section at a later date and make a better effort to be in compliance. Of course, others may want to see what they can do. Again, I maintain that the section could use a bit more background and detail regarding the program's origins. Msr69er (talk) 20:47, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

References

^ Armstrong, Jennifer Keishin (2014). Mary and Lou and Rhoda and Ted And All the Brilliant Minds Who Made the Mary Tyler Moore Show a Classic (First Simon & Schuster hardcover edition. ed.). Simon & Schuster. ISBN 978-1451659221.

[1] Armstrong, Jennifer Keishin (2014). Mary and Lou and Rhoda and Ted And All the Brilliant Minds Who Made the Mary Tyler Moore Show a Classic (First Simon & Schuster hardcover edition. ed.). Simon & Schuster. ISBN 978-1451659221.

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